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Test and interior of a WiFi light dimmer that costs around £150 (DIW-01 with Supla)

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  • Packaging of Supla DIW-01 Wi-Fi dimmer with app graphic. .
    Today we learn about the design of the dimmer with Polish software. According to the manufacturer, the DIW-01 offers control via a monostable button (full), bistable (on/off only) and via the Supla app/website. Of course, it can also be used in Supla scenarios/automations, but that's off topic.

    Let's start with the packaging:
    Packaging of Zamel DIW-01 dimmer with visible logo. .
    Back of Zamel Wi-Fi dimmer packaging. .
    Made in Poland, not bad. We'll see the interior soon, but first the contents:
    Wi-Fi light dimmer DIW-01 with manual. .
    They didn't give mounting screws or even a clip like in Tuya....
    Instructions:
    User manual of the DIW-01 dimmer on a wooden surface. User manual for Wi-Fi dimmer DIW-01 in multiple languages. .
    Remove the top cover:
    Interior of a green electronic module with visible components and integrated circuits. .
    Inside you can see two circuits:
    Photo of the dimmer's interior showing electronic components. .
    Close-up of a PCB with electronic components. .
    The EA1721A, or rather the TEA1721A is a power supply controller, here not a flyback but a step-down version. There is no transformer on the other side of the PCB.
    Electrical schematic with TEA1721 controller and other components. .
    L051K86, on the other hand, is the MCU. This is not the module responsible for communication, as there is still a WiFi module inside, but this MCU I believe handles the dimmer control. Similar to the Tuya products, there is an MCU and a WiFi module separately in the dimmers. Here is an example of a Tuya product similarly working:
    EU 300W EDM-01AA dimmer on BK7231 and TuyaMCU - configuration .
    Since here is the MCU, where is the WiFi module?
    DIW-01 dimmer module with visible electronic components on a green circuit board. .
    Let's look from the top. There's a fuse, a big rectifier bridge....
    View of the internal electronic circuit of the DIW-01 dimmer.
    Electronic components inside a green dimmer housing. .
    View of the interior of a dimmer with visible electronic components on a green PCB. .
    There is a transistor under the rectifier bridge, let's see which one:
    Interior of the DIW-01 dimmer with electronic components on a green PCB. View of the interior of a dimmer module with electronic components. .
    20N60C3. MOSFET, not thyristor. Small surprise. So they ... are releasing an already rectified voltage onto the bulb? Is that why this rectifier bridge is so big?
    Apart from that, there is also an additional thermal fuse.
    ATCO K series thermal links. .
    And most importantly, a WiFi module:
    ESP-WROOM-02 module in DIW-01 dimmer enclosure Close-up of the ESP8266 module inside a dimmer case. ESP8266 WiFi module mounted on a green PCB inside a dimmer. .
    ESP-WROOM-02, or ESP8266. As a rule of thumb, I made a copy of the batch via esptool.py, but you guys don't have to do that:
    Close-up of a circuit board with integrated circuits and connected wires. Dimmer's PCB board with wires connected to a breadboard. .

    Pairing with Supli cloud (own or public) .
    I have basically covered everything in a separate topic:
    Pairing and configuring Supla devices without using a mobile phone .
    I tested this thoroughly on the dimmer presented here, along with its operation in practice and its remote control.

    Summary .
    I much prefer Supel's environment to Tuya's, so buying this device relieves me of having to change the firmware, but you have to pay a bit more for that. Or at least compared to the £80-100 Tuya product:
    The EDM-01AA-EU 300W dimmer on BK7231 and TuyaMCU - configuration .
    All the more so as I am here comparing a doped module with a ready-made switch-dimmer module...
    Theoretically it might be cheaper to buy a Tuya product and replace its WiFi module with one with ESP8266 and upload Supla on that, but then there's the problem with the TuyaMCU protocol, I can't find any information about it being supported by Supla.... looks like it isn't, perhaps I'll try to address this in the next topic.
    That's it for now, and would you guys pay the £150 for the module in this topic?

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  • #2 21200358
    Damian_Max
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    Hey, first of all I like your descriptions xD!
    Just so I'm wondering, isn't it the case that the era of fill-based dimmers (as a separate device) is slowly passing away? Now the stupid LED bulb/lamp has its own pulse power supply with a current source, and I guess such a dimmer wouldn't be suitable for such, would it?
    If not for lamps, then for what(?), for motors rather not (I tried, without feedback the motor loses a lot of torque, and controllers with feedback are anyway cheap ~130zł), for electronics (tv, pc, ups) also not, maybe for an aquarium heater xD.
    Another thing is a similar tuya dimmer LINK , you can get for 60£.
    To answer your last question: I wouldn't buy this xD, twice the price of the competition, not much to use.
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  • #3 21200972
    ZbeeGin
    Level 39  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    So they .... let the already rectified voltage go to the bulb?
    .
    No. They only give the MOSFET transistor a comfortable condition where the current only flows one way. For the bulb, nothing changes as it continues to get its AC current while being outside the bridge.
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  • #4 21200991
    p.kaczmarek2
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    @Damian_Max agrees, not every light source will work with it:
    Quote:
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    The DIW-01 dimmer is designed to adjust the illuminance of lamps fitted with conventional incandescent and halogen 230 V AC bulbs. The dimmer also works with light sources powered by an electronic transformer. Changing the lighting intensity is also possible for selected dimmable LED bulbs and dimmable CFL fluorescent lamps.
    .
    It may be much simpler to simply buy a smart 'bulb' (with adjustable brightness level and light temperature) and, for example, somehow configure a smart switch to control it accordingly. Depends on what environment we are doing. After changing the firmware, it may be easier. Only then, the relay is permanently omitted for such a switch so that the "bulb" is powered all the time and it is controlled via WiFi. You can use e.g:
    Tasmota Device Groups - connection of OpenBeken (BK7231T/BK7231N) with Tasmota .

    The £60 dimmer you linked is the "Dimmer dimmer TUYA WIFI MINI V3 lighting controller" and it's unlikely to have ESP8266 inside, so you won't upload Supli, but probably OpenBeken could be uploaded:
    https://openbekeniot.github.io/webapp/devicesList.html

    @ZbeeGin it looks like you're right, is this more or less the scheme in question?
    Electronic circuit diagram of a dimmer with a MOSFET.
    https://www.learningelectronics.net/circuits/dimmer-with-mosfet.html
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  • #5 21201067
    ZbeeGin
    Level 39  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    @ZbeeGin looks like you're right, is this more or less the scheme in question?
    .
    Exactly.
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