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RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector

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  • #391 14405946
    Jezzman
    Level 21  
    Nom, at the moment I have SDR on an Apollo tablet and it works without any problems that the processor does not work in it :D As for the modem, I use the ZTE MF637 and it works with my method without any problems :) other, for example, huawei also played and there is gitt.
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  • #392 14406743
    Thunder6995
    Level 13  
    What processor do you have there?
    Most often I meet around 2x 1GHz and I wonder if it is enough.
  • #393 14407764
    Jezzman
    Level 21  
    Thunder6995 wrote:
    What processor do you have there?
    Most often I meet around 2x 1GHz and I wonder if it is enough.


    I have a single-core 1GHz and it does not give much advice: / I mean when you turn on the "Spectrum" option in SDR Touch, it starts to cut the sound :D
  • #394 14407891
    zabex
    Level 22  
    The same for me on the ARM Cortex-A7 Dual Core 1.2 GHz. In addition, he can often break communication with the donkey. Initially, I thought it was a matter of RTL power supply, but unfortunately the same symptom on the external power supply.
  • #395 14408787
    Jezzman
    Level 21  
    zabex wrote:
    The same for me on the ARM Cortex-A7 Dual Core 1.2 GHz. In addition, he can often break communication with the donkey. Initially, I thought it was a matter of RTL power supply, but unfortunately the same symptom on the external power supply.


    As a curiosity, I will add that my tablet is on RK2826 and after changing the power supply of the dongle, the reception improved. And tell me if other devices connected to the tablet, e.g. flash drive, also break communication?
  • #396 14408919
    zabex
    Level 22  
    Only donglas do such numbers. I even bought a USB HUB with external power for testing and it changed nothing. The mouse, flash drive works great.
    I don't know what's going on but on a phone with ARM A9 Dual Core 1.2GHZ it works great.

    PS
    "device is not responding, please replug the device"
    Sometimes, right after turning on SDR Touch, and other times it can "even" work for a few minutes.
    I also bought a mini dongle, hoping that something will change ... Let's not go into it ;) Desperation knows no bounds ;)
  • #397 14409174
    Thunder6995
    Level 13  
    As for stuttering, maybe you have some background applications running that eat up CPU and RAM resources (since it cuts at 2x 1.2GHz ...) :?:
    Yes, I think that if OTG with flash drives works flawlessly, and the power issue has been eliminated, maybe the drivers are free / incompatible :?:
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  • #398 14409197
    zabex
    Level 22  
    I will quote my statement: I do not know what it is about but on a phone with ARM A9 Dual Core 1.2GHZ it works great.
    I don't know about processors but isn't the architecture here (ARM7 ARM9)?
    4.2.2 jelly bean systems.

    PS Kol.Thunder6995 I eliminated the background of the application in the first place ;)
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  • #399 14409204
    Thunder6995
    Level 13  
    I referred to the statement by Jezzman, who wrote that he has 1GHz and it is too little, because he is starting to break at the spectrum, but you (buddy zabex :) ) you replied the same on ARM Cortex-A7 Dual Core 1.2 GHz.
    So either, as you correctly observed, the architecture has an impact on it, or the device that cuts you (and has 2x 1.2GHz) is still loaded with some processes, so SDR does not have at its disposal the computing power that it hypothetically has on the phone (which can not so burdened with other programs in the background).
    Oh, those guesses ... :D
  • #400 14409228
    zabex
    Level 22  
    Thunder6995 wrote:

    Oh, those guesses ... :D

    Exactly.. :) The charms of a dongle :)
  • #401 14411133
    blur
    Level 22  
    What am I wrongly positioned? SDRSharp goes up to 93Mhz, nice "bar" next to it there is noise I aim exactly and there is silence :( as if it was just a carrier without modulation.



    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #402 14411171
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    Take a screenshot
    Maybe you have the wrong modulation set or the squelch is twisted too much.
  • #403 14413802
    Cataclysm
    Level 10  
    blur wrote:
    What am I wrongly positioned? SDRSharp goes up to 93Mhz, nice "bar" next to it there is noise I aim exactly and there is silence :( as if it was just a carrier without modulation.

    1kHz bandwidth on WFM is not enough, and fft and waterfall do not look promising.
  • #404 14431624
    darek89a
    Level 9  
    Hello, I figured out how to receive AM stations, I soldered a piece of wire to the 1 pin of the RTL2832 processor and now I have a problem with setting the frequency because I mix FM and AM stations and you can not set higher frequencies and how to protect the tuner against burning because I also read that it can burn from the long antenna
  • #405 14431653
    Olek II
    Moderator
    darek89a wrote:
    how to protect the tuner against burning because I also read that it can burn from a long antenna


    It was about it. You can put two 1N ... diodes in anti-parallel, parallel to the input. But as there will be a lightning strike in the area, the induction current will damage the input. Do not connect the antenna during an impending storm or lightning.
  • #406 14456573
    Krzysiek AE69
    Level 11  
    Hello, maybe it's from a different barrel. The question is, has anyone tried to decode ed with SDR + Unitrunker ??
    If so, I would need a little help.
    So what do I have:
    Installed everything you need to decode edk, i.e. SDR + Unitrunker, additionally Virtula cabel and all the rest.
    I have the Control Chanel and Voice Chanel frequencies stored.
    The problem is that you have to enter everything manually into Unitrunker.
    Another thing is that I have no control over Voice Chanel, it is about "jumping" between
    I have frequencies with voice modulation and only have bits of information.

    If anyone did, I would ask for help in setting up the Unitrunker so that everything goes right

    Regards, Krzych
  • #407 14457569
    Stari PL
    Level 9  
    lysy1980 wrote:
    There will be a post under the post, but I do not know if anyone mentioned modified drivers for receiving frequencies from 13MHz on tuners with the R820T chip?

    In the attachment, the SDR SHARP package is enough to replace the files and run the program.

    Hello.
    Screenshots of the work of a "bare" tuner on the R820T2 system with modified rudders. The antenna placed in the room is made of a coil that demagnetizes the cathode ray tube.
    40, 41 and 80 meters in the drops.
    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
    | RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #408 14457582
    lysy1980
    Level 33  
    Well, but you check the R820T2 and these drivers were created for its prototype and they also work.
  • #409 14461495
    KamiJas
    Level 14  
    AVE! I read the whole topic and read about securing the input with a diode, but not how to do it, can someone explain to me? I would like to know how you can crack a small RF amplifier. Additionally.

    Thank you greetings!
  • #410 14463113
    Stari PL
    Level 9  
    lysy1980 wrote:
    Well, but you check the R820T2 and these drivers were created for its prototype and they also work.

    This is exactly what users describe, I personally checked on the R820T2.
    KamiJas wrote:
    I read the whole topic and read about securing the input with a diode, but not how to do it, can someone explain to me?

    Check if your system does not already have one.
    My tuners are equipped with diodes:
    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #411 14465934
    KamiJas
    Level 14  
    I thought that the SMD transistor is not a diode. And there is some way to reduce the noise from the mesh antenna because the dvbt will not pick me up on it, but in gqrx it shows me a fairly strong signal on all dvbt frequencies from Tarnów. Radio stations can be listened to without any problems, I heard even conversations around ~ 430MHz
  • #412 14466032
    Stari PL
    Level 9  
    KamiJas wrote:
    I thought that the SMD transistor is not a diode.

    exactly two;
    BAV99
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  • #413 14502188
    tuner22
    Level 12  
    Hello
    I have a question whether a 60 MHz quartz generator can be used for this converter described here, because I have one
    Regards Paweł
  • #414 14502328
    methyl
    Level 16  
    You can use any quartz generator or oscillator with a frequency that, when summed (or sometimes subtracted) in the mixer with the receiving frequency, will result in a frequency that will fall within the range received by the dvb-t dongle.
    Any quartz generator from say 30-150Mhz can be used.

    I would advise you to replace the input low-pass filter with a bandpass filter which is not a big problem to make, e.g. using standard cores.

    Pay attention to the level of the signal coming from the generator to the mixer.
    As far as I remember for NE602 (612) the signal should be in the range of 200-300mV.
    A lot more goes from the quartz generator, which can cause a "garbage" on receipt but there is no tragedy because I checked.

    If we use an output high-pass filter, it must be designed for the appropriate frequency depending on the quartz generator used.
  • #415 14502777
    kriss51
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    tuner22 wrote:
    Hello
    I have a question whether a 60 MHz quartz generator can be used for this converter described here, because I have one
    Regards Paweł


    You can go ahead and apply one. The bandwidth of the output highpass filter should start at 60MHz.
  • #416 14502991
    tuner22
    Level 12  
    welcome back
    Thank you methyl and kriss51 I am starting to build this converter for the answer, but one thing bothers me is the coil. The description gives the parameters, i.e. diameter 2.5mm, and then for various coils, the number of coils and the size, but I do not know if I understand correctly, e.g.
    L2: 15t 4mm, L3, L5: 9t 4mm, L4: 7t 4mm etc. and here I have a dilemma whether it is diameter or length. I attach a diagram and description on the 2nd page. Please help or explain how to wind these coils.
    As for the settings in sdrsharp, you need to set shift to -60.000 with such a generator used in the converter
    Instead of TA7358 I have AN7205
    Regards Paweł
  • #417 14503070
    methyl
    Level 16  
    All coils are wound on a cotton swab-tube and are 2.5 mm in diameter. The other dimensions are the winding length.
    In my opinion, a bad idea because it is very inaccurate and the "goodness" of these coils is also bad. But it sure works because it's not narrowband filters.

    My advice, get 2 ferrite cores from antenna baluns or buy 1 PLN for example ft37-43 plus 4 some germanium diodes, but there can also be ordinary 1n4148 and some winding wire.

    Out of boredom, I have just assembled a converter for HF.
    Below is a photo of what it looks like and a screen shot of the 40m band listened to on this DVB-T converter and dongles. It is much nicer than the NE602 and the TA7358 not to mention. I know because I have a converter for NE612 (602) and I used to do it on TA7358.
  • #418 14503300
    kriss51
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    tuner22 wrote:
    but one thing bothers me, namely the coils.


    The output filter inductances given to the diagram in the appendix are for a 50MHz generator, so to make everything correct, you should calculate the high-pass filter that will work from 60MHz up.

    tuner22 wrote:
    As for the settings in sdrsharp, you need to set shift to -60.000 with such a generator used in the converter


    You have to set it up.

    tuner22 wrote:
    Instead of TA7358 I have AN7205


    You can give AN7205
  • #419 14503604
    tuner22
    Level 12  
    methyl wrote:


    My advice, get 2 ferrite cores from antenna baluns or buy 1 PLN for example ft37-43 plus 4 some germanium diodes, but there can also be ordinary 1n4148 and some winding wire.


    Ok, I have diodes, too, because I was buying today, but it is about the connections of these windings, I understand that the middle of the "secondary winding", the end and the beginning of the winding from the generator side to ground, and from the antenna side to the dongle, and the question of the quartz generator, I see in the photo that you have connected output via potentiometer and capacitor. What values are supposed to be. And with what wire to wind it is about wire diameters
    Thanks
  • #420 14504060
    kriss51
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    For such a mixer, all LEDs must be matched to their characteristics. They must all be the same. I would like to add that such a mixer has 5-7dB attenuation.
    methyl wrote:
    It is much nicer than the NE602


    Did you connect the NE602 symmetrically and accurately matched its input (3K) to 50? using transformers so you say?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the use of RTL-SDR (Software Defined Radio) receivers, specifically utilizing inexpensive DVB-T tuners like the RTL2832U and R820T models. Users share experiences regarding the capabilities of these tuners to receive a wide range of frequencies, including AM, FM, and shortwave bands. Concerns about potential damage to the tuners when connecting antennas directly to the RTL2832 chip are raised, along with suggestions for protective measures such as using diodes. Various software options for SDR, including SDR# and HDSDR, are discussed, along with installation issues and driver compatibility. Users also explore antenna options, modifications for improved reception, and the effectiveness of different setups for receiving signals across various bands.
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