Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

Dorilll wrote:

In fact, it did not break down for 12 years, but the temperature at which the drought is deadly high, when I opened the door in the middle of work, the things could not be touched because they were so stinging despite the fact that I had the function of supposedly reducing the temperature. The effect - practically all things coincided, the children looked as if they had blouses from their older brother because the sleeves were shortened by about 5 cm, the prints crumbled and all the elastics in the panties or tracksuits broke.

Well, the phrase "deadly high" for a product on the western border ... what a surprise :-)

I have a cheap Hoover dryer: https://jackiewiczowie.blogspot.com/2014/04/suszarka-kondensacyjna-do-ubran-jaka.html
It turns the drum both ways.

I made measurements of the material collected from the filter, temperature and humidity in the room: https://jackiewiczowie.blogspot.com/2014/04/suszarka-kondensacyjna-do-ubran-jaka.html

Same as energy consumption: https://jackiewiczowie.blogspot.com/2015/01/zuzycie-pradu-przez-suszarke-do-ubran-i.html
I already have energy consumption data for the heat pump dryer and another heat pump dryer is measuring. So soon more measurement results for comparison.

The mere fact of consuming energy by the dryer without a heat pump does not scare me, because I do not want to believe that it would consume 4 kWh ... As I mentioned, it does not iron almost anything after drying, which also allows you to settle the bills. However, I mean the drying effect in both dryers, a lot of feathers and I see a colossal difference. A dryer without a heat pump is perfect for me if someone wants to dry only bedding, cloths, towels and some old home clothes. If we want to dry practically the entire load in the dryer without loss of clothes, then only the heat pump guarantees it.

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As if I can sell my old Bosch for some small money, it is a bit old, but I mainly used it to dry it for 40 minutes, so I think that a few springs can be of use to someone :)

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After removing from the dryer without a heat pump, things had a characteristic smell, so you could always tell that the item was dried in the dryer (I even liked it, so sterile, boiled). , the closest smell to drying in the yard in perfect weather. This is probably another proof that pump dryers do not bully our clothes so much ;)

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Freebsd read your page, estimate for your time I agree that the heat pump dryers are louder, my washing machine spins quieter than the dryer runs ?, but fortunately I have a dryer on the floor in the bathroom so closing the door does the trick. At night, I do not dry anyway because I take it out immediately after drying and put it back in order not to iron it. As for the drying results, it depends on the settings, how you want it so moist you have. I have a very nice mixed XL program, which is up to 6 kg and even thick sweatshirts or jeans are dry, I never put on extra dry.

Hi. I came across this topic looking for most of you electricity related to the purchase of a dryer. Currently, this one catches my eye: BOSCH WTW85465PL, there is now a good promotion for her. What do you think?

The lack of reverse movements disqualifies Bosch, you will be pissed off every time you dry your bedding, tablecloths, etc. Extras are criticized by the self-cleaning capacitor. I can recommend electroluxes from the Perfect Care series with a clear conscience. In my family there are two identical copies, all in love with the equipment

Dorilll wrote:

No reversal movements disqualify Bosch, you will get pissed off every time you dry your bedding, tablecloths, etc.

I have Bosch, somehow the lack of reverse moves doesn't piss me off. Everything is dry and without extreme creases.

Dorilll wrote:

In addition, many people criticize the self-cleaning capacitor.

Why are they criticizing?

And you do not twist the bedding into one ball? Mi in the previous dryer, almost every time the bedding rolled up and was undried and crumpled. There is no problem with this in the new one. And the bedding practically comes out without creases (Well, unless I have too much sometimes). And as for this capacitor, I read a lot of bad stuff on this forum and I admit that only on this basis I speak like that, but I do not know how it works in practice. Nevertheless, I will defend heat pump dryers and I will not agree that those without are better ;)

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In total, not only from this forum, but I watched a lot of videos of how people clean these capacitors and cut the flaps. I have easy access to mine, I vacuum it every 2 weeks and there will always be something there. That is why it seems simpler to me and it is better to clean something more often and shorter than to have such a swamp as in these videos

Thank you for the answers. I did not have any pressure for a given brand, the Bosh I gave is now at a very nice price because after a discount and with the return of the bonus from the company, 1959 comes out, so quite good for such a capacious equipment. But maybe it's actually better to go something else?

Good price, always PLN 400 less, but I would be afraid to take a risk. See on youtube on German pages how it looks like, and Mr. Household appliances have his dryer for a long time?

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I like Bosch a lot in general, but mostly their dishwashers. Washing machines are good too, but the dryers do not appeal to me. Even the grinds, which are the leading household appliances, even their dryers do not clean the condensers themselves. Only Bosch introduced it and other companies do not follow it, maybe because it is a bad solution

Dorilll wrote:

electroluxes from the Perfect Care series.

and you can know what specific model?

Electrolux Perfect Care 800 EW8H458BP

Dorilll wrote:

how people clean these capacitors and cut the flaps.

Perhaps it would be better to carefully follow the rules of use written in the instruction manual.
On YT you can watch various idiocy of the world, harmful and thoughtless advice as well.

you're right

Borutka wrote:

Dorilll wrote:

how people clean these capacitors and cut the flaps.

Perhaps it would be better to carefully follow the rules of use written in the instruction manual.

The flap is actually a spare part for dryers with a Siemens, Bosch pump and it is no idiocy.

Dorilll wrote:

Aren't your bedding twisted into one ball?

I have not had such a problem yet, and I have already dried the sheets several times. When something like this happens, it's hard, I know how to deal with it

faral yrab wrote:

Thank you for the answers. I did not have any pressure for a given brand, the Bosh I gave is now at a very nice price because after a discount and with the return of the bonus from the company, 1959 comes out, so quite good for such a capacious equipment. But maybe it's actually better to go something else?

Where can you buy this dryer at such a price? That is PLN 2259

Hello
Unfortunately, my spouse ordered to buy the first clothes dryer so I need help.
It will be our first dryer so I have no idea.
After reading this topic and checking different models in brick-and-mortar stores, I selected 4 types to choose from:
1) Gorenje DA83IL / I - A +++; 1.42 kWh / cycle; 175 min / cycle; 177 kWh / year; 65dB; two filters; two-way rotation of the drum; ionizer.
2) Beko DH8644RX - A +++; 1.31 kWh / cycle; 193 min / cycle; 158 kWh / year; 64dB; one filter; two-way rotation of the drum.
3) Elektrolux PerfectCare 800 - A ++; 1.99 kWh / cycle; 154 min / cycle; 235 kWh / year; 66dB; one filter; two-way rotation of the drum.
4) Bosch WTR85V5EPL - A ++; 1.87 kWh / cycle; 200 min / cycle; 235 kWh / year; 65dB; two filters; unidirectional drum rotation.
For comparison, I omit the design and loudness aspects.
Gorenje suits me best because it is the best energetically and has a reverse speed and two filters which I think will keep the pump clean. Unfortunately, she was not in stock in any of the large stores to see and compare the performance. I currently have a washing machine of this brand and for 12 years I have been using it quite intensively without the slightest failure. In one store, an "expert" stated that this brand had deteriorated and that the new washing machines would not last that long?
Beko dryers perform very well in the rankings, but this brand does not inspire my trust (Turkish) and I do not know how with the possible availability of parts.
According to the forum, Elektrolux dries very well, but its reliability is at a low level and I do not know why the second filter was abandoned.
Bosch gently eliminates the lack of two-way rotation and a long drying cycle.
best regards
Adam

I have bought a Siemens dryer at home, probably an older model than that of your Bosch, but my wife has been using it intensively for almost two and a half years and so far it works great. I recommend and you will be satisfied.

Please note that electrolux dries the fastest, I have the same model. There is one filter, but two. Friends have beko, it has two filters, but the first one is single, so I think it works for one. I already have electrolux for over half a year and the filter at the bottom is clean, but I vacuum it twice a month. Electrolux is also distinguished by the fact that it has many interesting programs in which you can dry large loads, for example My has a mixed XL, which dries up to 6 kg of laundry at a lower temperature. Friends have bacon and there they already have such a problem that the daily program is up to 4 kg, so they often have something undried. It is known that the equipment is 8 or 9 kg, but it only applies to the cotton program, which dries at a higher temperature, feel it clearly because when I set it, because the cycle is finished, it is much warmer than in the mixed program I mentioned. ;)

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In general, I am against pushing the washing machine to Max, usually I have less, which means that the dryer already dries even thick sweatshirts and pants in the range of 1.40 to 2 hours, it seems to me quite quickly, considering that my previous dryer without a heat pump also grinded one and a half hours

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I looked through these dryers, gorenje has really nice parameters, a bedding program which is a great solution. Beko is terribly expensive, it is as much as PLN 600 more than electrolux, and even more than Bosch. The times when the equipment was 10 years or longer are rather over and I think it is better to buy a cheaper model and let's have 600 zlotys in store for repair or another contribution to a new dryer in the future.

jadzik wrote:

Bosch gently eliminates the lack of two-way rotation and a long drying cycle.
best regards

Can someone explain to me ...? the rotation is clockwise and the sheets are curled. Then the dryer spins to the left and the sheets spin It's something like the magical rocking of the laundry in LG washing machines?
If so, then in fact those designers at Bosch are stupid . And consumers even more so if they buy it.
As for the drying times, my friend will be similar everywhere (each dryer with a given load capacity has a similar capacity) and depends on the program used. For example, Bosch has a long and quite delicate "cotton" program for nominal loads and a quick and quite intensive "mix" program, which dries a typical load in an hour.

Borutka, no kit A pure fact. I have been using the dryer for 13 years, previously I had Bosch and practically every drying ended with a ball in the middle, that I opened it two or three times while drying my hands and I unscrewed it. The ball was created about 10 or 15 minutes of shooting. In the new dryer, on normal programs, the dryer stops turning several times in the opposite direction, every 5 or 10 minutes, and on the program, the linen much more often, practically non-stop, the drum stops and starts turning the other way, which means that nothing will roll over. Maybe if someone uses the dryer sporadically, such a problem does not occur or the user will not notice it. I wash almost every day, make bedding every two weeks, and seriously, the trail hit me when it was time to wash the linen. I am also surprised that Bosch did not introduce the reverse because, as I wrote before, I like this brand and, for example, I cannot imagine a dishwasher at home, unless it grinds :)

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Of course, the ball ended up loading bedding or large tablecloths. With normal clothes there was no problem

You have this opinion, buddy, and this is your right. On the other hand, the bedding ball can also be done during washing, where the washing machine probably always turns both ways. A helpful habit is to fold bedding in cubes.

Not so much as a sentence, but an experience. I think that after using the dryer for about 13 years, it is pretty big practically every day and this is just what you do

A request for advice,
Which of the following driers with a self-cleaning condenser system to choose:
LG RC80U2AV3W
Siemens WT45W46EPL iQ500

qqnik wrote:

LG RC80U2AV3W
Siemens WT45W46EPL iQ500

but these dryers share a lot of money from what I see. After the promotion, Siemens will be barely above 2k, while LG will be a whole thousand more. in this chip I would take Siemens.

Only apparently the bosch / siemens self-cleaning is not very effective ... I wonder if LG is better ...
Well, I have a washing machine LG

If you are able to spend 3400 on a dryer, pay 300-400 zlotys extra and take the grind !!!

After some promotional and connecting operations, LG will get 2.8kpln.
I am more intrigued by this self-cleaning system ... is it marketing or is it effective?

And LG also cleans condensed water?

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From what I can see, LG no longer has any access to the bottom filter, in Siemens, in case of clogging, you can remove the flap and this is a great convenience in the event of clogging ... in addition, it is much cheaper, so I would also take a Siemens if you only choose between these two models.

supposedly 1-3 times during the cycle, the exchanger is rinsed with water,
I suppose it needs water from the tank from the previous drying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OHc_MLdBuM

Everything looks beautiful on advertisements And how it works in practice can only be told by the user