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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #361 17841650
    yanes
    Level 32  
    Siemens rinses the exchanger in a similar way, but if it becomes heavily clogged with fluff, with a little bit of cunning you can clean it without installing this service plug. alternately from the filter and from the pump. What I am aiming for is that the clogging of the exchanger is worse to deal with when the electronics fail, then the repair is sometimes not profitable.
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  • #362 17841655
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I am skeptical, but the author of this thread himself bought a Bosch dryer with a self-cleaning exchanger 4 years ago and some time ago wrote that the equipment works flawlessly with about 5 cycles a week, so that's something. Let him work for at least 2 years and as for today, the equipment has already worked for its own :)
  • #363 17902817
    agatys
    Level 1  
    Hello.
    I have had a Bosch WTE86305PL dryer for 8 years
    Unfortunately, I am not entirely satisfied with it because it washes and shrinks a lot of clothes. What could it be caused by?
    What other dryer model can you recommend that will not shrink clothes?
  • #364 17902852
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    You probably have without a heat pump ... so the reasons are the same as I wrote earlier. Few things can withstand a temperature of 80 degrees or more. Take the heat pump and you will not shrink anything, because it works more or less in the range of 50-55 degrees, dries 99% of things and nothing has shrunk (maybe a little one sweater)
  • #365 17903189
    PanAGD
    Level 23  
    agatys wrote:
    I have had a Bosch WTE86305PL dryer for 8 years

    Just like a colleague @Dorilll he writes, it is a dryer without a heat pump. So it dries at 80 ° C, thus the clothes shrink and wear out faster. With a heat pump dryer, this problem is minimized.
  • #366 17903626
    maras77
    Level 21  
    PanAGD wrote:
    agatys wrote:
    I have had a Bosch WTE86305PL dryer for 8 years

    Just like a colleague @Dorilll he writes, it is a dryer without a heat pump. So it dries at 80 ° C, thus the clothes shrink and wear out faster. With a heat pump dryer, this problem is minimized.


    It is not minimized. Open the dryer while drying and measure the temperature.
    It follows from simple thermodynamics that in such a closed cycle there must simply be high temperature. The heat pump dryer has a more closed energy circuit, and the heater circuit - open (i.e. heat is expelled outside the dryer)
  • #367 17904050
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Maras77 is minimized for sure, I used the dryer without a pump and with a pump. I opened both of them while drying, in the dryer without a pump there was hell in the drum, the wet laundry was still burning in my hands. It's lukewarm in the pump
  • #368 17951380
    Pakes
    Level 10  
    Hello, I have just sold a washing machine, time to buy a new set with a dryer. And I chose such a model
    BOSCH WTW 876K0PL A +++ condenser dryer 8kg
    Someone? Something? It has automatic capacitor washing, but I wonder if I should choose something with a rotating drum in both directions?
    I have a small bathroom quite warm in winter so it only comes into play with the heat pump.
    I wonder if anyone knows what access to the capacitor is, if I would like to clean it myself
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  • #369 17951385
    yanes
    Level 32  
    Pakes, I have a Siemens heat pump dryer I bought 2.5 years ago, used intensively, it started drying more than 4 hours before it needed two, so the exchanger is clogged, I'm going to write to them because you can see that this factory washing is not working.
  • #370 17951393
    Pakes
    Level 10  
    Well, I suspected, if it was under pressure, maybe it would give advice, Except that someone has already written here that for 5 years he has been using a Bosch with washing and it is ok, I wonder if his time has not increased: /
    Damn you don't know what to choose
  • #371 17951515
    yanes
    Level 32  
    My dryer was really used intensively and I was hoping that it would clog up during the warranty period. When I bought the new one, it was also the old 15-year-old Siemens, but I sold it to a friend without a heat pump, it still works with her, she only replaced the broken drive belt. Someone wrote here that cheap towels from IKEA, and the wife has most of them, are particularly clogged and I can see one more reason, my wife bought a huge box of scented wipes. Loads 2-3 times per cycle, which can also cause clogging. Puki what is buying used Miele will suit the washing machine better.
  • #372 17951909
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Pakes, take something definitely cheaper, for just over 2,000 you have decent equipment with good programs. I think such a dryer will last 5-6 years in good winds, so why overpay over PLN 1000. Yes, you already have a spare for the next or even repair of the old one :)

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    Unless you throw a few hundred bucks and you will have grinds, although I heard here that they started flying into balls ... Nevertheless, I have a washing machine from their company for 8 years, she washes like crazy every day and she is fine, she works like on the first day not even any shock absorber knocks. So maybe it's still worth it ;)

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    Yanes, don't you want to yell this flap and clean yourself?
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  • #373 17951969
    Pakes
    Level 10  
    Well, I'm thinking whether not to extend the warranty, maybe it will be a good method to keep her life a little longer, or maybe Beko? A little cheaper and in the vicinity of 2k PLN you will buy something or aim for Bosch?

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    Damn, even before buying, I think how to disassemble to clean the exchanger ... This is not very good for the equipment: /
  • #374 17951974
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    My friends have beko and they praise beko that I think beko has strange programs. Most programs except cotton, which is dried at a higher temperature, only have a capacity of 3-4 kg, so the full load sometimes comes out wet ... I have a mixed program of 6 kg and the whole load is pepper dry with a lower temperature. I am afraid to dry on cotton because even in the manual there is a stamp that the temperature is higher and I am afraid of shrinkage, what does it look like in other users?
  • #375 17951988
    yanes
    Level 32  
    [/ quote] Damn, even before buying, I think how to disassemble to clean the exchanger ... This is not good for the equipment: / [/ quote]

    If I have only a syphony exchanger, there is no problem with washing it, I have the same used dryer in which the module is probably damaged and I took it apart, but first I cleaned the exchanger through the service flap and after dismantling it was clean. manufacturer with claims for the performance of the equipment. When I get out of my mind, I'll start rummaging in it.
  • #376 17952000
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Yanes, maybe it's not an exchanger and the system is unsealed ??? Then it's probably a scrap dryer: /
  • #377 17952066
    yanes
    Level 32  
    If it were, the dryer would signal an error. I wrote to Siemens in Poland, interesting what they will write back.
  • #378 17952078
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I used to call them directly on the hotline when I had a problem with the dishwasher and once with the washing machine. They redirected me to the workshop and helped, so maybe you can try it too :)
  • #379 17954970
    Pakes
    Level 10  
    How about this one
    Electrolux EW8H458BP PerfectCare
    Opinions on other websites are very good, maybe someone?
  • #380 17955210
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Pakes, I have a year and my mother. We are in love with her :)

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    It has some really great programs, the mixed XL I mentioned bomb before. I put 99% of things in it, even the sometimes very delicate ones and nothing has shrunk at all. The same program for bedding, nothing twists. I recommend it with a clear conscience :)
  • #381 17970129
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Yanes and how did you get the response from Siemens?
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  • #382 17970289
    yanes
    Level 32  
    Shame but silence, I will still call them and eventually I will write to the German headquarters how they treat their clients. I received a used condensing Miele, it dries like crazy, my wife says that the clothes are all well dried because in the one with the heat pump there were places where they were wet. Power consumption for one cycle is 1.5 kWh to 1.8 kWh, cycle time 40-70 minutes. The laundry was also done in a five-kilogram Miele washing machine, but spun at 1600 revolutions per minute. In sum, with such electricity consumption, it is a pity to sponsor heat pump manufacturers because the profit will not exceed the purchase costs.
  • #383 17970508
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Well, I will rather have to sponsor because my old Bosch without a pump was shrinking a lot of things and arguing. I hope that these 5 years will take me at least because nowadays it is difficult to have a longer service, unless someone sets the washing once or twice a week. :)
    best regards
  • #384 17970569
    yanes
    Level 32  
    It is rather certain that it has clogged and will clean it by itself because it is not difficult. Now I want to hear what Siemens will say about it, but as you can see, they don't care.
  • #385 17970706
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Rather, they will not care about the issue, like the pp guarantee, once my friend broke the Bosch washing machine under warranty and waited for repair for over 3 weeks, they came to fix it as soon as she made an emergency (5 people at home and almost a month without a washing machine)
  • #386 17978112
    p
    Level 11  
    Does it make any sense to put a dryer in a room 1.3x1.3 m (micro laundry)? The room is quite high (2.9m). The dryer would be placed on a Bosch washing machine that is already standing there. There is ventilation in the room (ventilation grille above the washing machine + door undercut), no furniture, no radiator. A "post" made of a washing machine and dryer would have about ~ 12cm of play on the left and right sides, a little less from the back.

    I wonder if there will be a problem with the need to constantly open the door while drying. Won't it get too hot in there at all?
    My guess is that you can only consider the heat pump version?

    Throw (obviously no toilet etc):
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options .
  • #387 17978152
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    p wrote:

    My guess is that you can only consider the heat pump version?

    I have a room of 2.8 m by 1.5 m and there was discomfort with a traditional dryer, mainly due to the humidity.
    You can also install a fan in place of the grille, but my friend probably has a common ventilation duct with the toilet and this is the wrong solution. Besides, now having a heat pump dryer, I would not go back to the traditional one.
  • #388 17978196
    p
    Level 11  
    I understand you now have a heat pump dryer in the same room and no problem with high temperature / need to open the door?
  • #389 17978210
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    p wrote:
    I understand you now have a heat pump dryer in the same room and no problem with high temperature / need to open the door?
    Yes. Although a heat pump dryer is also a source of heat, it can be noticeable in such a small room.
  • #390 17978241
    p
    Level 11  
    How would you rate the noise generated by both dryers and compare it to the noise of a spinning washing machine?
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on choosing between Bosch condenser tumble dryers with and without heat pump technology, focusing on the Bosch WTW85460PL heat pump model and conventional condenser models like the WTB86201PL and WTG86400PL. Heat pump dryers offer lower energy consumption (approximately half) and gentler drying at lower temperatures (~55°C vs. 80°C), which reduces fabric damage. However, they have longer drying times, higher purchase and repair costs (notably expensive heat pump replacements), and require regular cleaning of densely finned heat exchangers that are difficult to access. Conventional condenser dryers are simpler, more reliable, easier and cheaper to maintain, and dry faster but consume more energy and generate more ambient heat, which can be beneficial in colder months. Energy consumption measurements show heat pump dryers use less electricity per drying cycle but the payback period depends on usage frequency and electricity costs. Users report mixed experiences with heat pump dryers regarding durability and maintenance complexity. The discussion also covers practical aspects such as placing dryers on washing machines using Bosch connectors, cleaning procedures for heat exchangers, and the impact of spin speed on drying efficiency. Other brands like Electrolux, AEG, Whirlpool, Hotpoint-Ariston, Candy, Gorenje, and Miele are mentioned, with some users sharing negative experiences with Electrolux heat pump models due to early failures. Overall, the consensus leans toward conventional Bosch condenser dryers for reliability and ease of maintenance, while heat pump models are favored for energy savings and fabric care if budget and maintenance are manageable.
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