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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #541 18216501
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    On some programs, the heater simply works less and dries longer.
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  • #542 18216589
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    WTW8546EPL - you are right. This one is also with a pump ... Only Bosch WTG86400PL Serie 6 Avantixx is without.
  • #543 18218441
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    After a more in-depth analysis of the functionalities and programs, I am forced to buy a dryer with a pump ...
    I am targeting two of them

    Bosch WTR87TW0PL - without self-cleaning system - with condensate drain pipe
    or
    Bosch WTW876E0PL Serie 6 - without drain - kind of a self-cleaning system

    Maybe someone used one of the above, or will tell me if this auto-cleaning system works every day.
  • #544 18218549
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I think a million people on this forum have written about it, I suggest you read this forum carefully, and you will know everything :)
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  • #545 18219199
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    I visit the forum starting with the loupe ...
    and there are millions of answers like yours on the forum, that's right. You're right.
  • #546 18219340
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    But this particular thread was discussed here ... returning to it, the self-cleaning system does not work completely and after some time you have to cut the flap with a knife and clean the topics manually, and then you have to buy a replacement cover from the website. Therefore, it is better to choose something that has a flap that opens immediately and you can look there at any time and vacuum what is there. In addition, Bosch dryers are probably the only ones that do not rotate the drum in both directions, which is rather very useful, because larger items such as bedding do not roll up and do not form a large ball of laundry. In addition, 3300 is a lot of money for a dryer, it's better to buy something cheaper and have money in reserve to repair or buy a new one. Unless you have free cash for the dryer only, add 500 zlotys and for 3700 or 3800 you have Miele, an expert in this field. best regards :)
  • #547 18219470
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    Dorilll wrote:
    But this particular thread was discussed here ... returning to it, the self-cleaning system does not work completely and after some time you have to cut the flap with a knife and clean the topics manually, and then you have to buy a replacement cover from the website. Therefore, it is better to choose something that has a flap that opens immediately and you can look there at any time and vacuum what is there. In addition, Bosch dryers are probably the only ones that do not rotate the drum in both directions, which is rather very useful, because larger items such as bedding do not roll up and do not form a large ball of laundry. In addition, 3300 is a lot of money for a dryer, it's better to buy something cheaper and have money in reserve to repair or buy a new one. Unless you have free cash for the dryer only, add 500 zlotys and for 3700 or 3800 you have Miele, an expert in this field. best regards :)


    Thanks, I have never had a dryer and after reading this topic I had and I have even more confusion in my head than before :) ie those with a pump break down, clog up, those dry out, destroying clothes, etc. I can't get rid of the approach and I'm still under the illusion that you can buy even a little decent equipment for more money. The poor man can't afford linden, and here it comes out that I buy myself more problems for more money. :)
  • #548 18219577
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    The dryer is a great thing, I have already persuaded a few people to buy it and they thank me for it today. For better money, as I wrote, it is Miele, I have a washing machine of this company for 8 years and I definitely see the differences between this washing machine and others from this higher shelf. ;) I have an electrolux dryer for over a year, it has cost 2,400 each load of the washing machine, even the most delicate items. If it will last 5 years, I will be 100% satisfied with it :)
  • #549 18219899
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    Dorilll wrote:
    The dryer is a great thing, I have already persuaded a few people to buy it and they thank me for it today. For better money, as I wrote, it is Miele, I have a washing machine of this company for 8 years and I definitely see the differences between this washing machine and others from this higher shelf. ;) I have an electrolux dryer for over a year, it has cost 2,400 each load of the washing machine, even the most delicate items. If it will last 5 years, I will be 100% satisfied with it :)


    It will be ELECTROLUX EW8H458BP :) , not very expensive with a pump, when it falls off, well, I will buy a new one, although I do not like generating electro-waste.
    Miele, especially for the "people", it's not like Miele (I love such phrases) but I succumb to them. You can find information on the pads of these devices on the web.
  • #550 18219958
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I and 2 other people in my family have the model you chose. It works great, it's not cheap, it costs well over 2,000 and that's something
  • #551 18225371
    mjkmjk1
    Level 11  
    Bosch dryers. The difference between AutoClean and SelfCleaning Condenser.
    I see Bosch using 2 solutions. From what I understand, SelfCleaning Condenser is risky because it is said not to work very effectively. It ends with cutting access to the condenser, cleaning and putting on an additional flap.
    How about AutoClean? I understand that instead of emptying the tank in the opening of the dryer each time, I empty the tank near the condenser every 20 dryings. What about the capacitor itself? Can I vacuum it easily? Watched it in the store today and I can see that nothing needs to be cut. The fluff collector is removed and the condenser is visible. Do you confirm that AutoClean is a better solution in this context?
  • #552 18225883
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    First you have to buy it, use it intensively and then find out :) what's the price?
  • #553 18225968
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    This condenser is a very large element. And even if you can see it, you can see a small fragment of it. Thus, in any solution, without professional interference, there is no chance for its thorough cleaning.
    Of course, the thickest fillies stop at the beginning and that's why it is worth having access to this place.

    If the autoclean function does not require frequent fluff emptying, it may be that the fluff is being blown out of the air by centrifugal force - something like a cyclone vacuum cleaner ... I don't know. In any case, it will be possible to talk about the effectiveness of this solution in a few years.

    The main thing is to use the dryer literally according to the instructions. This applies to both cleaning and the tags on the clothes. I have already seen fluff melted on the filter and the evaporator, coming from a poor-quality blouse.
  • #554 18225994
    mjkmjk1
    Level 11  
    Dorilll wrote:
    First you have to buy it, use it intensively and then find out :) what's the price?

    If this question is related to my post, I will answer yes. I have the impression that these newer 8 series and Home Profesionall models have this SelfCleaning Condenser. However, there are also 8 models with AutoClean. The most expensive series 8 and Home Professional dryers are from SelCleaning, but the difference to the most expensive ones with AutoClean is small - usually PLN 400-500. And sometimes it's even the other way around. And I don't really think that it was related to this option, but rather to additional programs, the possibility of changing the door, etc.
  • #555 18227073
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    As for the recommendations on the tag, Borutka is not exactly like that. As I already wrote, everything droughts no matter what the tag says. I have not noticed that there are more stubs pp of things that allegedly cannot be dried. For example, the entire filter is after bed linen, towels or kitchen cloths. There is info on all of these that you can dry. In turn, recently I was drying delicate blouses and a promo sweater from H&M and there was practically nothing in the filter ...

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Of course, most or all of these items had a hair dryer symbol crossed out
  • #556 18227090
    Will Nottellyou
    Level 11  
    Dorilll wrote:
    As for the recommendations on the tag, Borutka is not exactly like that. As I already wrote, everything droughts no matter what the tag says. I have not noticed that there are more stubs pp of things that allegedly cannot be dried. For example, the entire filter is after bed linen, towels or kitchen cloths. There is info on all of these that you can dry. In turn, recently I was drying delicate blouses and a promo sweater from H&M and there was practically nothing in the filter ...

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Of course, most or all of these items had a hair dryer symbol crossed out


    There is a good chance that the filter is not picking up certain things and they end up in the condenser.

    This is how it works for me. https://youtu.be/zk7LnkJPQdA

    Slowly I come to the conclusion that this is not a topic about dryers, but a social topic LOL
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  • #557 18227143
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    But the most important thing is that the dryer is the leitmotif ? say you are satisfied with your dryer grinds? How long do you have it and use it often? Because they say that it is not the same for grinding, but they said the same thing 9 years ago when I bought my washing machine grinds and sometimes she washes like a brand new art and I would not even exchange it for some most expensive model from another brand, a real Mercedes ...
  • #558 18227157
    Will Nottellyou
    Level 11  
    The most important thing is that it should be good LOL
    We have several Miele tumble dryers in the family, some run around the clock, others a couple of times a week. All with a heat pump, the oldest is 5 or 6 years old. No problems so far. OK, they were more expensive, but apart from the Miele badge, the stylist suits us and everything is always dry. I like fragrance bottles that can be packed in Miele, I only use them for bedding and they smell fantastic. I'm not saying that Miele is the best, Bosch is doing it in the same factory, but somehow I have a fondness for Miele.
  • #559 18227191
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Well, I do likewise, although I admit that I take everything out of electrolux, also very dry, even thick sweatshirts. Well, but we'll see what will happen next
  • #560 18230200
    iwus_76
    Level 12  
    Will Nottellyou wrote:
    The most important thing is that it should be good LOL
    We have several Miele tumble dryers in the family, some run around the clock, others a couple of times a week. All with a heat pump, the oldest is 5 or 6 years old. No problems so far. OK, they were more expensive, but apart from the Miele badge, the stylist suits us and everything is always dry. I like fragrance bottles that can be packed in Miele, I only use them for bedding and they smell fantastic. I'm not saying that Miele is the best, Bosch is doing it in the same factory, but somehow I have a fondness for Miele.


    I wonder if these grind dryers are the ones from the simplest series, e.g. currently 230/430?
    Elektrolux came to me, but unfortunately it was damaged (display - touch). They are to send a second one or they will resign at all tomorrow.: /
  • #561 18230221
    mjkmjk1
    Level 11  
    Ultimately, I chose Bosch. In Neonet, they have a promotion of PLN 70 in vouchers for each PLN 500 spent. Added to this is Bosch's cashback - PLN 500, so you should be able to buy one of the highest models below PLN 3,000.
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  • #562 18230886
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I really like Bosch very much, they do good things, but why don't they introduce reversal movements all the time, even in the highest models? I think they should be given this idea ... ?
  • #563 18230958
    mjkmjk1
    Level 11  
    Dorilll wrote:
    I really like Bosch very much, they do good things, but why do they not introduce reverse movements all the time, even in the highest models? I think you should give them this idea ... ?


    The creativity in marketing is also limited. Maybe they are selling so well for them that they left behind the reverse moves for the next lines. Although it seemed to me that one of the Home Professional dryers has it, it is not available in PL.
    On the other hand, I asked some friends who have Bosch dryers and were surprised by the question, because they never got a ball. However, there are movies on the Internet that it does happen.
    We'll see how it will be with me.
  • #564 18231019
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Well, I had a Bosch before and I was struggling with it all the time, but it was without a pump. Maybe there is more airflow in the pump which reduces the risk of entanglement, I have no idea. But that's why I was afraid to buy a new one also from Bosch. Let me know how it will be with you :)
  • #565 18232571
    Will Nottellyou
    Level 11  
    iwus_76 wrote:
    Will Nottellyou wrote:
    The most important thing is that it should be good LOL
    We have several Miele tumble dryers in the family, some run around the clock, others a couple of times a week. All with a heat pump, the oldest is 5 or 6 years old. No problems so far. OK, they were more expensive, but apart from the Miele badge, the stylist suits us and everything is always dry. I like fragrance bottles that can be packed in Miele, I only use them for bedding and they smell fantastic. I'm not saying that Miele is the best, Bosch is doing it in the same factory, but somehow I have a fondness for Miele.


    I wonder if these grind dryers are the ones from the simplest series, e.g. currently 230/430?
    Elektrolux came to me, but unfortunately it was damaged (display - touch). They are to send a second one or they will resign at all tomorrow.: /


    Yo,
    Yes, he mainly writes about the "for the people" series. I am not interested in the gimmicks of such a device, but in its efficiency, functionality and ease of use. One knob, few buttons, easy to read display. Watching the laundry when it is dried does not turn me on too much and it was another "for" for this particular series. I don't know if the drum is spinning both ways, but the laundry has never got tangled.
  • #566 18232862
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    In each dryer, the drum grinds in two directions, I did not go into all brands, but probably only Bosch has no reverses and I wonder what harms them to introduce. I think they want to be unique ... ?
  • #567 18233115
    lukiiiii
    Level 29  
    Stupid question, is there a dryer in which you can turn off or slow down the speed to, for example, 6 per minute to dry your shoes?
  • #568 18233123
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Probably not, to dry shoes you need to have a special basket, thanks to which the shoes stand still in the drum
  • #569 18233291
    Will Nottellyou
    Level 11  
    Dorilll wrote:
    In each dryer, the drum grinds in two directions, I did not go into all brands, but probably only Bosch has no reverses and I wonder what harms them to introduce. I think they want to be unique ... ?


    I didn't know that. I did a web search, and indeed. The Miele website does not boast about it, there is only a note in the Pro series. that probably explains why I never had a washing ball in the drum ...
  • #570 18243079
    elfhelm_1
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    After reading most of the thread, I almost decided to buy the ELECTROLUX EW9HM1478P dryer and an additional 3-year warranty on the manufacturer's website.

    In the promotion, the dryer costs PLN 2669 + PLN 399

    Will I buy something cooler at this price?

    Thank you and best regards
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on choosing between Bosch condenser tumble dryers with and without heat pump technology, focusing on the Bosch WTW85460PL heat pump model and conventional condenser models like the WTB86201PL and WTG86400PL. Heat pump dryers offer lower energy consumption (approximately half) and gentler drying at lower temperatures (~55°C vs. 80°C), which reduces fabric damage. However, they have longer drying times, higher purchase and repair costs (notably expensive heat pump replacements), and require regular cleaning of densely finned heat exchangers that are difficult to access. Conventional condenser dryers are simpler, more reliable, easier and cheaper to maintain, and dry faster but consume more energy and generate more ambient heat, which can be beneficial in colder months. Energy consumption measurements show heat pump dryers use less electricity per drying cycle but the payback period depends on usage frequency and electricity costs. Users report mixed experiences with heat pump dryers regarding durability and maintenance complexity. The discussion also covers practical aspects such as placing dryers on washing machines using Bosch connectors, cleaning procedures for heat exchangers, and the impact of spin speed on drying efficiency. Other brands like Electrolux, AEG, Whirlpool, Hotpoint-Ariston, Candy, Gorenje, and Miele are mentioned, with some users sharing negative experiences with Electrolux heat pump models due to early failures. Overall, the consensus leans toward conventional Bosch condenser dryers for reliability and ease of maintenance, while heat pump models are favored for energy savings and fabric care if budget and maintenance are manageable.
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