Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

After replacing it, the second Elektrolux dryer works properly. The only discomfort, however, is the specific noise of the dryer operation during drying. Such an apache from a distance

Hi
The dryer (Bosch WTX87MH0PL) arrived on Thursday, so I have been testing it for several days.

3 times I dried such a mix of everyday clothes such as T-shirts, underwear, cotton pants, tracksuits, etc. Each time I shifted the entire contents of the washing machine 9 kg (before washing the drum was full, but not tight). In the dryer, wet and spun laundry took up about 2/3 of the drum volume. I didn't check the labels (my wife cuts the kids' clothes), I didn't sort, I just put everything into the dryer. Drying "to the cupboard" without any problems. Everything is dry, soft and not wrinkled. The wife is happy because the clothes are in such a condition that she has absolutely no intention of ironing them. With two children, it is a saving of time 15-20 minutes a day, not counting electricity for an iron.

I was drying the towels once - the same was the full load from the washing machine 9 kg (about 15 medium-sized towels). The result - the same, everything dried and soft. I did not give any washing up liquid on purpose. Next time I will add to see if they are softer yet.

Drying bed linen twice, in the same way in a full washing machine. I watched with apprehension what would happen to the terry sheets with an elastic band, but nothing curled up. I think that maybe if I packed the dryer with the entire volume of spin-washed laundry, maybe the contents would not be free to move, but in my case nothing curled into a ball. The first time I was drying two sets of bedding + sheets from single beds (140x200). Behind the second there is a set of bedding from a large bed 220 x 200 + 2 sheets.

I have dried jackets once. Again, as before - two Kursk ski resorts with big children (adult size). In the 9 kg washing machine, they took up the entire volume loosely. Washed and spun at half power (1000 rpm). Dried on the "delicate" program. The jackets are also dry, although inside, on thick seams, where there was a thick layer of fleece (e.g. in the hood), they seem not completely dry. Maybe if I chose the highest level of dryness "wardrobe +", or dried on the left side, the effect would be better.

So, to sum up, I have no objections. Very short and unreliable experiences, but so far nothing has turned into a ball. I hope that someone will find my long-standing opinion useful. I will describe the lint cleaning system in a separate post.

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And a few more details about what this lint filter looks like. In order not to describe, I just took photos. As you can see, everything flows from the drum through a typical chamber in the door casing, but nothing stops there, but is sucked lower towards the condenser. The first container has a dense filtering mesh right in front of the condenser (so probably in the way of the strongest air draft), but it is positioned at an angle of approx. 45 degrees. It seems to me that these flocs fall by gravity into the lower reservoir where they accumulate. There is little fluff in the upper tank, just a little on the mesh in front of the condenser. The capacitor is accessible from the front and from the bottom (in case someone wanted to vacuum it. I think that at the back of the dryer I also saw an easily removable module at the same height, which should give access to the back of the capacitor.

And that's what an honest opinion is, thanks! For me, valuable information about the mix program. For me, this program is 6 kg and dries very well, although I admit that I do not load the washing machine to the full. In many dryers, mixes and similar programs have a load capacity of only 3 kg and I wonder if such a program in these dryers also dries the laundry. Otherwise, you would have to use cotton, which has the maximum load capacity, but is a more intensive program, so I do not use it in my dryer at all. Can you tell how many kg is assumed by this program in your dryer and how long does it take?

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And the equipment looks very promising ?

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PS I also load everything into the dryer without looking at the tags and it has never suffered from it

Dorilll wrote:

For me, valuable information about the mix program. For me, this program is 6 kg and dries very well, although I admit that I do not load the washing machine to the full. In many dryers, mixes and similar programs have a load capacity of only 3 kg and I wonder if such a program in these dryers also dries the laundry. Otherwise, you would have to use cotton, which has the maximum load capacity, but is a more intensive program, so I do not use it in my dryer at all. Can you tell how many kg is assumed by this program in your dryer and how long does it take?

According to the instructions, only the COTTON program weighs 9 kg. TOWELS are for 6 kg. ANTI-ALLERGY 4 kg. All the others are 3.5 kg (SYNTHETICS), 3 kg (eg MIX) and even less.
As for MIX, I didn't even know how much a limited amount of laundry could be put in. I have a deep (59 cm) 9 kg Bosch washing machine and I always put the dry laundry fully (without pressing it). I do not know how much it weighs, but if it was too heavy, the washing machine probably signals? I put the entire contents into the dryer and everything moved loosely during drying, because the volume of the dryer drum seems to be larger than that of the washing machine. I don't know how much by weight it was. Everything was very well dried on the "WARDROBE" program, and there is always "WARDROBE +" in stock.
Drying time for MIX is 1: 25/2: 15/2: 40 depending on the degree of drying. IRONING / CABINET / CABINET +

And my point is that when I buy another dryer one day, I do not have to be influenced by it. Although it seems to me that Bosch has an additional button to reduce the temperature and you can even use it in cotton and then we also have a gentle one. This was the case with cheaper models, do you have such an option? As for the weight of the dryer, it does not hurt that you have more laundry, but it may not dry it. But when everything turned out dry, it means that it is ok

There is a humidity sensor in the dryer. I know about it for sure, because it says in the manual that it may need to be cleaned. It is located at the inlet to this opening, next to the door (for lint). I think that the duration of the program may change depending on the desired degree of drying.
From the additional options, I can see GENTLE DRYING (not a program, only an additional option), about which it says in the instructions: Reduced temperature for delicate fabrics, such as polyacrylic or elastane, can extend the drying time.

Were it not for your question, I would not have noticed that in addition to adjusting the drying, the ADJUSTMENT / COUPLING / COUPLING + option also has a DRYING DEGREE. This option is normally inactive, but when turned on it has 3 steps. In the manual, they write about it as follows: If, after drying, the linen is too damp, in order to obtain the desired drying result, it is possible to adjust the degree of drying and increase it in degrees from x to xxx. This will extend the program duration while maintaining the same temperature. After the degree of dryness has been adjusted for the respective drying target, the setting remains saved even after the appliance is switched off.

From the interesting options I have the REDUCTION OF KNEES 60 'or 120'. After drying, the drum rotates at regular intervals to prevent creasing. The automatic anti-crease function can be activated or deactivated for 60/120 minutes. In my opinion, it's cool if you are not sure that you will have time to take out your laundry right after the program ends.

I know it has sensors, but once I put on synthetics and the laundry came out damp. Virtually every dryer has these turning the drum after drying, but yours has a lot of these advanced options, I like it ? I sometimes use the delayed start option, such as I feather late in the evening and I don't want to wait another 2 hours for the dryer. Then I set it to turn on at 5 am and take it out in the morning. Although if someone has an apartment, it may not be a good idea, because the dryer is beating terribly and generally it is a loud machine

Dorilll wrote:

I know it has sensors, but once I put on synthetics and the laundry came out damp. Virtually every dryer has these turning the drum after drying, but yours has a lot of these advanced options, I like it ? I sometimes use the delayed start option, such as I feather late in the evening and I don't want to wait another 2 hours for the dryer. Then I tell it to turn on at 5 am and take it out in the morning. Although if someone has an apartment, it may not be a good idea, because the dryer is beating terribly and generally it is a loud machine

I very often use the delayed start in the washing machine so that in the morning the laundry is ready before going to work. Fortunately, the only thing I need is a robot that will put the laundry into the dryer.

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Dorilll wrote:

Although if someone has an apartment, it may not be a good idea, because the dryer is beating terribly and generally it is a loud machine

Really? I can't hear mine at all. It is definitely quieter than the washing machine, and the washing machine is said to be very quiet. I put it in the bathroom on the ground floor and when the door is closed I cannot hear it at all.

Even how to dry sweatshirts and sweatshirts with zippers and zippers? Rather, the dryers have a similar volume, and a lot depends on the room acoustics. My manual was 66 db, yours has less?

Dorilll wrote:

Even how to dry sweatshirts and sweatshirts with zippers and zippers? Rather, the dryers have a similar volume, and a lot depends on the room acoustics. My manual was 66 db, yours has less?

The producer wrote 62 dB on mine, but probably as you say - more depends on the acoustics of the room. Either way, I can hear the washing machine spinning, but the dryer cannot hear it.

Hello, like most people here, I am looking for a dryer, but I want to have an energy-saving class B, or rather a wall-saving one , I dealt with a lot of refrigeration and the dryer with a pump has only one plus for me, namely it pulls the condensate into the container or the sewage system, I do not see more advantages because the savings are my spouse, and the dryer if it warms the room, I'll even be happy because it will be useful to every bathroom, especially in summer it was dry in the room, because, as we know, we take out about 1l of water from each wash and you have to do something about it, in summer the laundry goes outside but the whole winter season you have to do something about it.
I have never had a dryer, so I do not know what the term (condenser dryer) is, if condensing, it means that with a heat pump (because the pump makes condensation of steam that condenses in the tank) I understand it like this, but in the descriptions it is different .
Does anyone have an Indesit idv 75 dryer, how long does it actually dry, what diameter does the ventilation pipe need?
Are there any other convection dryers on the market because I can't see anything.
I can barely see that my clothes are supposed to knock for 150 minutes practically dry, no wonder how then a handful of lint is pulled out of the tattered clothes.
I wonder if it would be better to invest in a good refrigeration dryer if I had a drying room (dryer)

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I have already learned how condensation works = mass of muck to clean.
From what I can see, a lot of bacterial cultures in the heat pump are also crazy without.
Probably the cheapest, the best, you only scare the temperature and shrinkage a little.
I watched this Indesit and I will say that PLN 900 is expensive, this design should cost PLN 600-700 max, this is a primitive device.

SAWEK101 wrote:

I have already learned how condensation works = mass of muck to clean.

In a condensing unit WITHOUT a heat pump you have dry lint to clean: https://youtu.be/UilreO-FkZ4 There is no standing water that you cannot access and in which life thrives. In my model, where the condensation water is discharged into the tank, the tank is still clean after a few years, with no traces of anything inside. Looks like new.

I already bought this indesit for alle .... umnie the dryer will work rather only during the winter season, the air outlet straight behind the wall without it, it is pointless to buy such a dryer, because I have a place to dry at home but I do not want moisture.
I have read on the net and practically no one complains about this dryer and simple as the construction of the flail, no electronics.
However, all former users warn against condensation with a heater, they say that it is a failure according to an ordinary dryer, it dries twice as long and it is not perfect, I saw after a few months how it peeked out inside she lives her own microsystem (there are certainly exceptions)
The pump is cool when it is new, it is all great then the stairs begin, I counted it for myself (operation for 5 years) and it does not pay off in any way.
Such a curiosity, those who have this model say that it uses an average of about 2-3.5 kWh per charge, because hardly anyone dries longer than 60 minutes, of course, if it is connected to ventilation.
Also in normal use, drying with a heat pump + amortization of the equipment is not cheaper.
Although maybe someday I will be tempted to solve a few problems and come down with the price.
For me, it is more important that the dryer does not infect my clothes and room with fungi than the stretched energy class.
And they say that in my indesit it is enough to clean the filter once in 4 batches, no washing, rinsing, pouring, in the states they are practically only convection, other energy prices are known, but it is also about ease of use.

I saw it in the film, in a large magnification, he put the camera in place of the dropper. I didn't like what I saw, but this is my opinion.
The downside is that it has to dry longer, because the air does not change, it is choking all the time the same, but you have water in the container without combining the ventilation, so sometimes there is no way out, but it is also a very simple construction - a fact.
It is important that it suits you and you are satisfied with it, I hope that I will also be with my own, and two months ago, if someone said buy a dryer, it would be useful for me to laugh at him, everyone has to grow up.

Following this path, we should stop using the refrigerator (gangrene can go crazy there), washing machines (fungus), dishwashers (fat deposits from 2015 Christmas Eve), vacuum cleaners (dust and mites), telephones (this is just disgusting horror) and many others other devices. Probably no studies have found germs on items dried in the dryer ;)

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The only thing that I agree with is that in such an ordinary dryer, things can have less bacteria, but only because they are dried at a much higher temperature. In a dryer with a heat pump, where it is 45 degrees, it is actually difficult to kill many bacteria. However, I think the bacteria that we have everywhere just the ones on our belongings do not hurt us ... unless someone is allergic, but then it's a completely different story

So this is how I installed this raisin, I am after the first drying, the dryer consumes about 2400W, except for the tip, about 10 minutes, the drum with the fan works to cool down, I do not see that my clothes are overheating, I put my hand in and they are only warm, the exhaust air is also only warm, even lazy and wet as hell, I have an outlet behind the wall so you can see everything
The biggest disadvantage is the usual galvanized drum, maybe it's not a minus but a plus because (it won't crack), the plastic fits are not very good, but it doesn't bother me, the filter will be best cleaned after each drying.
I think that the power consumption will be 3kWh per full load, but it will still work.
If someone does not have a special chimney, or can not make an outlet behind the wall, I strongly advise against this equipment.
I think umnie will work.

SAWEK101 wrote:

If someone does not have a special chimney, or can not make an outlet behind the wall, I strongly advise against this equipment.

This is obvious since you have bought an EXHAUST dryer.

SAWEK101 wrote:

the dryer takes about 2400W

Your model can dry intensively because heat is "lost". But you gain drying time. How long did your drying take?

However, 3 kwh chicken is quite a lot. Today I put in 4 washes and 4 drys and with this consumption of more than 10 kWh it would go to drying only ... and how with the smell of washing? Because once I heard that the whole smell disappears after exhaust air dryers. How is it with you?

I'm just testing, but about 60-70 minutes, if something thick, it can be longer, so I rather get an average of 3kWh, the smell hmmmm I don't know, it will certainly be smaller than from condensation.
And to you how much condensation are ingesting the actual measurement.

1000 rpm like everyone else, although I have 1200 rpm, we never use it and at 1000 rpm the washing machine sometimes exercises sambe, I just don't have the heart to torture it (electrolux aeg goes for 12 years without failure with a 5-person family), I know that the type of clothes also matters, the same amount of kg , for 2 weeks I will have more balanced data, we will see, for electricity I paid in advance (I have photovoltaic).

You have an advantage that it heats your apartment, mine chills it or ventilates it hehe.
Yours definitely has a better result in a cool room, because the exchanger cools down better.
But something takes a little bit of your electricity, maybe because 1600 rpm, the laundry probably has half the water of mine.

Kórcze, I would change the washing machine to a 1600 rpm inverter, but I absolutely do not know what to buy (how to spend money sensibly), buy so much crap now, man and then struggle with it, how would they give a week for tests, why not , I had confidence in electrolux, but after this forum is gone.
Similarly, I used to pay extra about PLN 150 to have 1200 and I do not use this because I am not always going to sit on the washing machine during spinning, as if trying to balance, etc., but she has been doing poorly since the news, sometimes she will succeed and sometimes not.
Once the washing machine Siemens broke its hoof for spinning, the laundry spread over the drum and guitar, and some new ones with a mint memola in both sides and the effect as always.

From myself I will add that I have bought a used Miele washing machine with 1600 revolutions per minute and it will probably not fall for this reason and it is already 10 years old.

But 1600 rpm is usually only cotton or some anti-allergy program. I mostly use dunkles / jeans or pflegeleicht in my grind and there is 1200 rpm. Do you wash only on cotton or do you turn on additional spinning in addition?