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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #631 18295586
    nusku
    Level 15  
    And I have a question for people who service such equipment or have experience with it: which models of heat pump dryers DO NOT HAVE copper / aluminum connectors? So which have all the elements in which the copper refrigerant flows? In my opinion, this is the main problem of today's refrigerators and other refrigeration devices.
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  • #632 18308222
    exik
    Level 25  
    In connection with the promotions, I would like to inform those interested that you can now buy a Bosch Washing Machine + Dryer set at a sensational price.

    Bosch WTR85V5EPL dryer - PLN 1999 + (PLN -150 cashback Bosch) = PLN 1850 (promotion from PLN 2400)
    Bosch WAN2406EPL washing machine - PLN 1099 (promotion from PLN 1399)

    Set = PLN 2,950

    Branded set, simple - without unnecessary fountains and, above all, very cheap - and has everything that is most important! Today I just bought it myself.

    The set was at this price in rtv euro household appliances, but the promotion is over, but it's still on oleol (it's also a euro-net company).
    Also take while there is!
  • #633 18309026
    zab28
    Level 12  
    Hello. After reading the whole thread, I decided to buy a condenser dryer with load weighing and temperature control
    Candy GVS C8DE-S. Let's see if the clothes shrink. I will definitely test the air supply temperature while working on various programs and if it will heat up to 80 degrees on all programs, it will immediately return to the store. And if the temperature depends on the program, I hope it comes (bush company) longer than heat pump dryers, because I have about 9 washes a week.
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  • #634 18309477
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Zab28 a super valuable experiment! I would like to do something like that with my pump
  • #635 18310125
    rzuber
    Level 20  
    Do you know how these models differ?

    BOSCH WTR85V5EPL
    BOSCH WTR85V5SPL

    Because from what I can see, the latter is after 1999. The first is after 2299.

    I look at both and see no differences. I don't see a compare option on the Bosch website.
  • #636 18310127
    exik
    Level 25  
    They are not different. The last 3 letters indicate the distribution channel (RTV euro AGD, media Markt, neonet, media expert)
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  • #637 18310405
    MANIEKJG
    Level 15  
    Can anyone comment on LG dryers, for example, the RC90U2AV4Q. The price is high 3.3k, but I already have an LG washing machine and the price includes a basket, a water tube and a connector with a washing machine. Can he add 400 PLN and buy Miele TDB230?
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  • #638 18315843
    stoper86
    Level 10  
    I warmly welcome. Can someone use and can comment on these dryer models:
    Siemens WT45H25EPL
    Beko DS8412GX

    Because I would like to buy one of them and I do not know which one to choose and maybe someone will suggest a different model that is more interesting than those mentioned by me.
    Needs a dryer with a heat pump.
    best regards
  • #639 18341533
    myszafrancisza
    Level 1  
    Good day.
    I am a former user of the ELEKTROLUX EDH heat pump dryer and I advise against this equipment with my hands and feet.
    Shortly after the warranty, the pump died, the dryer was repaired PLN 1900, so the decision is obvious - we do not repair it.
    Daylight robbery and horror! Absolutely no savings.
    The service gentleman informed us that it was common and independent of the brand. He emphasized that it is best to buy cheap and simple equipment,
    and just in case, buy an additional guarantee.
    I will thank you for the dryer. If someone can afford to throw 2,000 down the drain every 3 years, then voila: /
  • #640 18341818
    dozoku
    Level 11  
    I am freshly bought, now I have to leave a comment about the purchased goods, but somehow I can't write what I wrote about the washing machine about the dryer. I bought a dryer out of necessity, because now I have to have my things dried quickly. If not for this, I would still use the attic, where the laundry sometimes froze first and then only dried ... ;) ) but I haven't received my first electricity bill yet, so ... what if this hair dryer fails right after two years? It's nothing, I won't worry too much. But it's definitely not the hardware that is essential. Although currently needed.
  • #641 18343773
    krzysztofm1989
    Level 11  
    Hello. I have traced the thread and will for sure take a dryer without a pump and am wondering between the two:
    - electrolux ew6c527pp, PLN 1500
    - whirlpool ft cm10 8b, PLN 1300
    Elektrolux is a new model in PL and has no opinion yet but has good reviews on foreign sites. And I found nothing about whirlpol. Has anyone had or has and can speak / recommend?
  • #642 18343858
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    I would choose the cheaper one. Inside, there is no advanced mechanics or electronics, or any innovative solutions - as simple as a flail design, so why overpay.
  • #643 18343954
    krzysztofm1989
    Level 11  
    Yeah. Thanks for the answer. The only thing that speaks for electrolux is that it is 10cm less deep, but at a cost of 1kg. And that it shows the time to the end and in the whirlpol 3 lights (drying, cooling, end) and I am not sure if the whirlpoll has a humidity sensor and adjusts the sussenie to the humidity level.
  • #644 18343966
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    krzysztofm1989 wrote:
    humidity sensor
    This is an important functionality in my opinion. I didn't think it was possible to produce dryers without it now, and I assumed they all have it.
  • #645 18344061
    exik
    Level 25  
    I have been using a condenser dryer with a heat pump for 3 weeks.
    I am adding a few things that I noticed.
    Cheaper clothes, mainly t-shirts from chain stores (up to PLN 25 / item) are shrinking and clearly shrink. Actually, they are not suitable for further use because the L'ek became S'ki.
    Good clothes do not shrink, only the cheapest ones.

    Another thing is that the use of rinse aid during washing negatively affects the smell of clothes taken out of the dryer.
    The fabric softener in which the clothes are rinsed, heated in the dryer, starts to smell bad. It is a very unpleasant smell, bland and stale (blue Lenor). Such a rinse aid is not suitable for heating it in a dryer.

    Finally, I cannot imagine using a dryer without a heat pump, which dries at an even higher temperature, because I suspect that half of the clothes would go to the trash.
  • #646 18344070
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    exik wrote:
    Cheaper clothes, mostly chain-store t-shirts
    I buy some clothes in, for example, Lidl. Nothing happens. Same with clothes from shopping malls, no problems.
    exik wrote:
    The fabric softener in which the clothes are rinsed, heated in the dryer, starts to smell bad.
    The wife has been using different fluids for years and has absolutely no such problems.

    exik wrote:
    Finally, I cannot imagine using a dryer without a heat pump, which dries at an even higher temperature, because I suspect that half of the clothes would go to the trash.
    You've read too much about dryers without a heat pump, and that's what I have.
  • #647 18344084
    exik
    Level 25  
    He writes honestly, without fancy or coloring.
    T-shirts bought from the New Yorker have shrunk a lot.

    Heated rinse aid in the dryer smells good. 100% better effect is achieved when we throw only a scented tissue into the dryer.


    I haven't read too much of anything. The sister-in-law owned a dryer without a pump and dried clothes selectively (she strictly followed the recommendations on the tags, in the end she gave up such a dryer - she sold it)
  • #648 18344090
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    exik wrote:
    T-shirts bought from the New Yorker have shrunk a lot.
    I don't have clothes from a shop like this, so it is possible.

    exik wrote:
    Heated rinse aid in the dryer smells good. 100% better effect is achieved when we throw only a scented tissue into the dryer.
    I feel sorry for that, but so far it only applies to your dryer.

    exik wrote:
    I haven't read too much of anything. The sister-in-law owned a dryer without a pump and dried clothes selectively (she strictly followed the recommendations on the tags, in the end she gave up such a dryer - she sold it)
    Her decision, she is allowed - I do not know what will come of this case.
  • #649 18344303
    krzysztofm1989
    Level 11  
    And what model of this dryer will shrink clothes? Maybe not from the Polish market?
  • #650 18344363
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    Clothes dryer is nothing new. Millions of dryers have been used for decades. Exhaust, condensing, gas or electricity powered. Recently, heat pump dryers have been produced. If, for example, gas-fired exhaust air dryers, or electric condenser dryers, would destroy clothes so massively that would also stink, would people buy such a product? After all, in some countries it is practically a permanent home furnishings. Maybe it's better that in Canada or the states, they don't read this thread ?
  • #651 18344465
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    exik wrote:
    bad smell, bland and stale (blue Lenor).

    A bit puzzling for me.
    I am currently using it (I got it for free at a discount store) and it smells really OK, also with time and after ironing.
    I would look for the problem in the washing process.
    Or is there rot in the washing machine drum? The washing machine should smell like washing chemicals ... nothing else. A colony of bacteria might also have developed. Or poorly selected programs, i.e. too short or overloaded drum in relation to the amount of water, poor detergent. Usually bacteria or remnants of organic pollutants smell. This may have been less noticeable when drying on a string.
    Shrunken clothing should return to normal when steam ironed (fiber loosening), unless it is really weak.
  • #652 18344750
    zab28
    Level 12  
    exik wrote:


    Heated rinse aid in the dryer smells good. 100% better effect is achieved when we throw only a scented tissue into the dryer.



    100% is the fault of the washing
    1 Dirty washing machine drum (drum odor)
    if your washing machine does not have automatic drum cleaning, try running the washing machine at 90 degrees without loading.
    2 Too many laundry in the washing machine, too short washing time or too low washing temperature
    3 Bad detergent (poor quality)
    4 Try adding 1 more rinse (if your washing machine allows it)

    I have a very expensive washing machine in which the drum cleans itself every 40 washes with ho ho sensors and yet a few towels smelled like you described earlier (I was drying without a dryer). after re-washing at a higher temperature, the odor disappeared.
  • #653 18344787
    exik
    Level 25  
    The washing machine is new, bought together with the dryer.
    The unpleasant smell of heated liquid is my subjective feeling. To some it may seem okay. The laundry smells like washing, but it has a faint smell of hot liquid. Do not confuse this smell absolutely with the under-dried laundry that got stuck on the string, it's not it at all.
    It is possible that the laundry was rinsed too poorly. Although it is strange that it is the thinnest fabrics that pass through this smell, i.e. T-shirts, etc. - fabrics that in fact heat up the most in the dryer.
  • #654 18344927
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    It's really the first time I hear about such a problem. I even have the impression that the dryer smells better, sometimes someone asked me what kind of liquid I use because this is what it smells like (I recommend coccolino intense black), but I always used blue linen and there was a git. As for the shrinkage of the t-skirtow. A lot of them are shortened to length, I thought for some time that it was because of the dryer, but I knew that when I had it, there was also such a problem. However, I was not sure and made sure, I measured the t-shirt with reserved before washing and washed it, did not put it in the dryer, just hung it up. The effect was such that it shorter by as much as 3 cm after one wash (gentle wash). This completely deprived me of any thought that the dryer was shrinking or damaging. As for the New Yorker, I recently bought a sweater for PLN 45 and I was drying it, nothing is totally wrong. So total nonsense someone spreads that the dryer would destroy things so much. In general, some cotton shrinks after washing because it was not always decanted before sewing ;)

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    Likewise, the lint that is in the filter does not in any way mean that the dryer shaves things. I have clothes that have been dried dozens of times and are in no way damaged or thinner. If someone uses the dryer with the head, it separates the laundry well before putting it in the washing machine, the dryer becomes a great device, right after the dishwasher. I can not imagine that there would not be a dryer next to the washing machine, I think I would go to the laundry then haha ;)
  • #655 18344977
    exik
    Level 25  
    I am attaching a photo of 2 T-shirts. Both shirts are exactly the same, they only differ in color. One of them was already in the dryer, and the other hadn't had a chance yet. You can see in black and white which was and which was not :)
    I do not have any complaints about the dryer, because it is a great device and the best purchase I could make.
    Some clothes are simply not suitable for drying in the dryer, which is probably indicated on the label.
    The point is, it is a mistake to say that NOTHING dryer will not shrink because it is not. It shrinks and there is nothing to talk about at all. These are the effects of a heat pump condenser dryer that dries approx. 55 degrees.
    There is also a good side to this, for example, older clothes that are stretched out suddenly start to fit again nicely :)

    That's why I believe someone says that a dryer without a heat pump, with an ordinary heater that dries at a temperature above 80 degrees, shrinks much more and much more clothes. And I don't think that is irrelevant information.



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  • #656 18344997
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    exik wrote:
    That's why I believe someone says that a dryer without a heat pump, with an ordinary heater that dries at a temperature above 80 degrees, shrinks much more and much more clothes. And I don't think that is irrelevant information.
    My claim is that I have no problems with shrinkage, and I have a dryer without a heat pump, as well as several million other users.
  • #657 18345001
    krzysztofm1989
    Level 11  
    Exik what kind of dryer do you have?
  • #658 18345011
    exik
    Level 25  
    I have a Bosch WTR85V5EPL - condensing with a heat pump.

    Quote:
    My claim is that I have no problems with shrinkage, and I have a dryer without a heat pump, as well as several million other users.



    It's cool, it's not very logical that clothes for which the safe temperature is 40 degrees should not shrink in a dryer that dries at 85 degrees. Okay, maybe you have exceptionally expensive clothes and exceptionally good fabrics.
    The sister-in-law sold such a dryer, because few things could be dried in it, and when she risked it, she often took out clothes in the size of dolls.
    In addition, among the millions of users who use dryers without a pump, it is now commonly believed that the dryer shrinks their clothes.
    And I think that is one of the reasons why heat pump dryers were created.
  • #659 18345034
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    That Cu t-shirt shrank. I just wrote about it. Recently, I was washing a T-shirt and it was the same and I did not put it in the dryer. He lost more than 3 cm. Wash the latter without drying in the dryer and you will see that the latter curls. And on what program is susysz? I never use cotton because the temperature is higher there
  • #660 18345038
    exik
    Level 25  
    Both t-shirts are 5 months old, both were washed and dried in the same 5 months. The purple one has recently been tumble dried, the black one hasn't had that pleasure yet.

    It was probably MIX dried

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the comparison between Bosch's heat pump dryer model WTW85460PL and conventional condensing dryers. Users express concerns about the reliability and maintenance of heat pump dryers, citing high repair costs and potential breakdowns. Many recommend traditional condensing dryers for their simplicity and lower failure rates. The Bosch WTG86400PL is frequently mentioned as a reliable alternative. Users highlight the importance of energy efficiency, drying quality, and the impact of drying temperatures on clothing longevity. The conversation also touches on the practicality of self-cleaning condensers and the overall user experience with various brands and models.
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