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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #901 19312158
    kamilo23
    Level 22  
    WTG what model? Are these Bosch washing machine and dryer combination options compatible?
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  • #902 19312209
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    the detailed model is not important anymore. WTG is a construction series, moreover, there are probably only one WTG and one WTN available now.

    To connect the devices to a post, you need to buy a connector, it must first of all be dedicated to the dryer.
  • #903 19361997
    PiotrekD
    Level 13  
    ptrkp wrote:
    I found something like this on the electrolux website:

    https://shop.electrolux.pl/pralnictwo/suszark...budowy/spodnia-szuflada-suszarki/p/1366343018

    but it's hard to say if it would fold. These 3 holes in the center have the same shape as in the flap protecting the exchanger.


    I put in my EW8H458BP dryer a perfectly matching foam filter from Beko - No. 2964840200. Nothing needs to be cut.
    I made its mount on a 3D printer. It is a split frame made of PETG. For those willing, I will mix the necessary files.
    The frame fits snugly into the corners. We put each half of the frame separately and then connect it together in the middle with the hook.

    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options


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  • #904 19399697
    PiotrekD
    Level 13  
    Out of curiosity, I measured the temperature and humidity in the EW8H458BP dryer drum with about ~ 5 kg of load. Spun laundry set at 1200 rpm.


    Dryer set to program - Mixed XL.
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options


    Dryer set to program - Denim. Drying 5 towels
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options
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  • #905 19400126
    Wallander
    Level 15  
    PiotrekD wrote:
    Out of curiosity, I measured the temperature and humidity in the EW8H458BP dryer drum with about ~ 5 kg of load. Spun laundry set at 1200 rpm.


    Dryer set to program - Mixed XL.
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options


    Dryer set to program - Denim. Drying 5 towels
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

    Okay, but what conclusions?
  • #906 19401084
    PiotrekD
    Level 13  
    Wallander wrote:
    PiotrekD wrote:
    Out of curiosity, I measured the temperature and humidity ...

    Okay, but what conclusions?


    The discussion is about choosing a dryer - with or without a pump ...
    I took the measurements out of curiosity and perhaps for a certain group of people speaking here they provide some information ...
    For example, on the forum you wrote that some models dry up and others do not ... but where is the basis that someone says so? We're not discussing feelings, are we? However, I am not an expert, I do not service them, but if there are various arguments, it would be good to support them with some real measurements. For example, I gave Electrolux ... I have one, it's my first dryer.
    The data has been collected and I leave it for evaluation to someone who knows about it and can say something specific about these measurements.
    Maybe someone will be tempted to do something similar, e.g. in the BOSH brand or other type of dryer ...
  • #907 19401716
    Wallander
    Level 15  
    PiotrekD wrote:
    Wallander wrote:
    PiotrekD wrote:
    Out of curiosity, I measured the temperature and humidity ...

    Okay, but what conclusions?


    The discussion is about choosing a dryer - with or without a pump ...
    I took the measurements out of curiosity and perhaps for a certain group of people speaking here they provide some information ...
    For example, on the forum you wrote that some models dry up and others do not ... but where is the basis that someone says so? We're not discussing feelings, are we? However, I am not an expert, I do not service them, but if there are various arguments, it would be good to support them with some real measurements. For example, I gave Electrolux ... I have one, it's my first dryer.
    The data has been collected and I leave it for evaluation to someone who knows about it and can say something specific about these measurements.
    Maybe someone will be tempted to do something similar, e.g. in the BOSH brand or other type of dryer ...

    Here, perhaps the main argument is the issue of energy efficiency - anyway, I am not being smart about it, I have not delved into this discussion. I have a traditional hair dryer because we have animals and a crazy amount of hair on our clothes. Dryer with exchanger to rain after two days ;) ...
  • #908 19402050
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    Wallander wrote:
    Rather, the main argument here is the issue of energy efficiency

    Neither is remarkably more energy efficient. In order to do a certain job, you need to supply a certain energy, no one has deceived mother physics yet.
  • #910 19414792
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    Spinning with 1000 revolutions is sufficient for tumble drying. When it comes to choosing the type of dryer, it's best to read this topic and make your own choice. I just don't know what the spin temperature is about.
  • #911 19415049
    margot25
    Level 12  
    mrice wrote:
    As for Szajssung, I cannot say a bad word about BSH and the quality of drying. As I mentioned before, until recently I had an old BSH woman, now there is a new Bosch WTG, it dries elegantly, does not crease, does not shrink (although it is a heater). After drying, I take things out, hide them in the wardrobe and everything is about 100% of what the dryer should offer is fulfilled.

    So I can expect that this WTG https://allegro.pl/oferta/suszarka-kondensacyjna-bosch-wtg86401pl-8-kg-8654006969 will also not shrink my clothes?
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  • #912 19415083
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Margot 25 80 degrees hardly any clothes withstand so it will shrink rather ;)
  • #913 19415093
    margot25
    Level 12  
    His colleague Mrice claims that the WTG is not shrinking. Is there anything without a pump that won't shrink?

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    Kernau reports that his pump dryer has something like this: NOTICE TO CLEAN THE HEAT EXCHANGER: YES
    INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEED TO CLEAN THE LINT FILTER: YES
    https://allegro.pl/oferta/suszarka-kernau-kfd-7502-7kg-pompa-ciepla-10661641588
    does this somehow solve the problem?
  • #914 19415159
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    margot25 wrote:
    So I can expect that this WTG https://allegro.pl/oferta/suszarka-kondensacyjna-bosch-wtg86401pl-8-kg-8654006969 will also not shrink my clothes?

    I have WTG at home for about half a year (before my older brother WTXL also a heater), I dry with full power (usually cotton for the closet, setting the drying level to the maximum) and I do not shrink at all, but washing on average after about 1:15 - 1: 2 - I take it out, fold it and put it in the wardrobe. So I am covering the washing and drying cycle over time.
    Things that are not suitable for dryers will shrink, and that's it. Then even with the heat pump you can shrink things.
  • #915 19415269
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Have this model from the link?
    Many people say that almost anything is suitable for a dryer.
  • #916 19416015
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    Yes, exactly this one.

    margot25 wrote:
    Many people say that almost anything is suitable for a dryer.

    Except that "almost" makes a big difference.

    A lot depends on what kind of clothes we have and wear. For me, cotton and jeans reign.
    One of the accidents that happened was one of the woman's trousers, which had a large admixture of elastomer in jeans, and after drying, they turned into bags and the second thing that did not survive were sweatpants bought in Lidl. The fibers have twisted so strangely that the seam on the side of the pants at the top is on the side and the seam at the bottom of the leg at the front :lol: the leg twisted 90 degrees. There are a few more things that protect the spouse from drying out, but in general we dry 99% of our clothes and no problem.
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  • #918 19416631
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    WTN is stripped of some function and has an all white front. WTG has one or two more functions and ala silver finishes and so many differences.
  • #919 19416645
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Thanks but you don't know what these functions are?
  • #920 19416735
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    I do not remember. On the Bosch company website, you can probably compare it. I do not know if WTG sometimes had the option to turn off the sound after the cycle was over.
  • #921 19416776
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I really feel sorry for you, especially your clothes ... why? I won't repeat myself anymore ... best regards ;)
  • #922 19416784
    kamilo23
    Level 22  
    Compared on the site and better to take WTG. Aunt bought this series.
  • #923 19416858
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Thanks and what specific reasons? PLN 200 difference.

    Added after 12 [minutes]:

    Dorilll wrote:
    I really feel sorry for you, especially your clothes ... why? I won't repeat myself anymore ... best regards ;)

    So what would you recommend?
    Really there is 80 degrees there and it is impossible to decrease? Actually, I was already using such a traditional dryer in a self-service laundry, I set the temperature to max (there were 3 thresholds to choose from) and the clothes survived two such sessions. It dried up in half an hour, it was a huge dryer, I think it was a heater. Something is slightly visible that the clothes are different, but I thought that when I buy my own, I will not give it to the maximum temperature.

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    What about washer dryers? Does it make no sense at all? Is it always the case that only half of the maximum load of the washing machine can be dried?
  • #924 19416931
    Wallander
    Level 15  
    As I wrote above, I have no pump - I did not notice any disturbing things happening with clothes. I also do not see that it is overheating.
  • #926 19417092
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Margot is 80 with normal and with a reduction of quality 75. After 30 drying, you can use the boxer shorts for washing the floor, forget that black will be black A and sometimes something will decrease. I was probably unlucky because I was shrinking practically everything, but as mrice wrote it depends on who has what. For me, almost everything was getting smaller, once I even shrunk the sheet on an elastic band ... for 3 years I have had a dryer with a pump, I dry everything, even cashmere sweaters. Completely different quality of dry things, as for shrinkage, I shrunk one shirt and one pants during this time ... so the result is really good, I will add that I feather an average of 7 times a week ... ;)
  • #927 19417117
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    Dorilll wrote:
    After 30 drying, you can use the boxer shorts for washing the floor, forget that black will be black A and sometimes something will decrease.

    Sorry, I suspect a bad piece of clothing. I bought a wardrobe about 3 years ago, dried non-top on a heater on full power. The pants are still on the backside, the black shirts are still black. I wrote somewhere, only one cotton pants and one elastic jeans were lost.

    Dorilll wrote:
    For me almost everything was getting smaller, once I even shrunk the sheet on an elastic band ...

    I would see a problem in the device. Unless you really hit the calculus Chinese fabrics.

    The fact that the heat pump is a bit gentler on fabrics, but at the cost of time. Nevertheless, one of the Bosch pumps that I had in the workshop with a thermometer during the cotton test for the final also reached about 80 degrees, which is just like the heater.
  • #928 19417142
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    This is what bosch and siemens have a problem with ... a lot of it on forums and youtube. I measured the temperature in my own and depending on the program and loading it is between 40 and 50 degrees ;) These two things that coincided with me were specific, even sometimes and 50 degrees too much And what about 80 ... when I have delicate clothes, I also dry less, then the temperature is lower, the washing is only slightly summer

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    And the fact is that in the dryer with the pump something can shrink, let alone in the heater ... but it happened to me only 2 times and there is no thing at home that I would not dry ... Well, shoes, because no I have a basket, but I intend to buy it someday ... ;)
  • #929 19417170
    margot25
    Level 12  
    What pump dryer do you think makes sense to buy?
  • #930 19417233
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Electrolux as cheap as possible ... the model I have is now for around 2,000. Plus, install an additional filter in front of the exchanger to eliminate A, for example, delay the clogging of the exchanger ... ;)

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    I am 3 years old, she walks every day And it used to be 5-6 times in a row in one day ... so many are already behind them during the baptism of fire
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on choosing between Bosch condenser tumble dryers with and without heat pump technology, focusing on the Bosch WTW85460PL heat pump model and conventional condenser models like the WTB86201PL and WTG86400PL. Heat pump dryers offer lower energy consumption (approximately half) and gentler drying at lower temperatures (~55°C vs. 80°C), which reduces fabric damage. However, they have longer drying times, higher purchase and repair costs (notably expensive heat pump replacements), and require regular cleaning of densely finned heat exchangers that are difficult to access. Conventional condenser dryers are simpler, more reliable, easier and cheaper to maintain, and dry faster but consume more energy and generate more ambient heat, which can be beneficial in colder months. Energy consumption measurements show heat pump dryers use less electricity per drying cycle but the payback period depends on usage frequency and electricity costs. Users report mixed experiences with heat pump dryers regarding durability and maintenance complexity. The discussion also covers practical aspects such as placing dryers on washing machines using Bosch connectors, cleaning procedures for heat exchangers, and the impact of spin speed on drying efficiency. Other brands like Electrolux, AEG, Whirlpool, Hotpoint-Ariston, Candy, Gorenje, and Miele are mentioned, with some users sharing negative experiences with Electrolux heat pump models due to early failures. Overall, the consensus leans toward conventional Bosch condenser dryers for reliability and ease of maintenance, while heat pump models are favored for energy savings and fabric care if budget and maintenance are manageable.
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