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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #931 19417538
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    Dorilll wrote:
    This is what bosch and siemens have a problem with ... a lot of it on forums and youtube. I measured the temperature in my own and depending on the program and loading it is between 40 and 50 degrees ;)

    Usually, pumps, the longer the cycle takes, the more they raise the temperature. Of course, it also depends on the selected cycle. It is customary to test devices on cotton cycles. Loading has little effect here.

    Dorilll wrote:
    And the fact is that in the dryer with the pump something can shrink, let alone in the heater ...

    Generally, if the fabric is lame, as you write, it will die in all of them.
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  • #932 19417658
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Okay, what about this Electrulux with a pump can actually clog it, is there something to access and what would be the cost of cleaning? Because from what I read, it looks different in different models. Do you have to make such an additional filter yourself?
    Is the bedding rolled into a ball and is it difficult to dry it?
    https://www.mediaexpert.pl/outlet/outlet-agd/...h438bp-z-pompa-ciepla-a-poj-8kg-gentlecare-24
    What do you think about such a budget Whirlpool without a pump? https://allegro.pl/listing?string=WHIRLPOOL%2...8BEU&bmatch=cl-e2101-d3857-c3683-uni-1-2-0429
  • #933 19417874
    sampler
    Level 18  
    For a similar price, you have an electrolux without a pump with the EW6C428 easy ironing function. We've been using it for several months and it works great. The iron is used sporadically.
  • #934 19417887
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Have you shrunk something? Does the black fade? Don't you have the impression that your clothes are deteriorating?
  • #935 19417984
    Wallander
    Level 15  
    margot25 wrote:
    Which model?
    Elux - one of the cheapest.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    margot25 wrote:
    Okay, what about this Electrulux with a pump can actually clog it, is there something to access and what would be the cost of cleaning? Because from what I read, it looks different in different models. Do you have to make such an additional filter yourself?
    Is the bedding rolled into a ball and is it difficult to dry it?
    https://www.mediaexpert.pl/outlet/outlet-agd/...h438bp-z-pompa-ciepla-a-poj-8kg-gentlecare-24
    What do you think about such a budget Whirlpool without a pump? https://allegro.pl/listing?string=WHIRLPOOL%2...8BEU&bmatch=cl-e2101-d3857-c3683-uni-1-2-0429

    Recently I had a whirlpool with a pump - average impression - shrinks - relatively high temperature for a pump and they had a terrible laundry, it comes out wrinkled like a dog's throat. Very good filters and easy cleaning.
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  • #936 19418549
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Do you have Mrice so with Bosch that these clothes do not need to be ironed?
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  • #937 19418607
    sampler
    Level 18  
    When I was buying my own without a pump, Bosch fell out because he did not have this program (easy ironing).

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    margot25 wrote:
    Have you shrunk something? Does the black fade? Don't you have the impression that your clothes are deteriorating?

    no such symptoms. Perhaps it is the effect of this Perfect care system, i.e. adjusting the temperature to the humidity of the load.
  • #938 19418628
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Thanks, do you dry the duvet cover normally?
  • #939 19418632
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    The old Candy dries the ideol, the new ones will not dry out with the crush of albs
  • #940 19420407
    sampler
    Level 18  
    margot25 wrote:
    Thanks, do you dry the duvet cover normally?


    This is how we dry the duvet covers together with the bedding.
  • #941 19420527
    margot25
    Level 12  
    Thanks, then the dryers are completely sure that this Elux without a pump.
  • #942 19533445
    dozoku
    Level 11  
    mrice wrote:
    Dorilll wrote:
    Loading has little effect here.

    Dorilll wrote:
    And the fact is that in the dryer with the pump something can shrink, let alone in the heater ...

    Generally, if the fabric is lame, as you write, it will die in all of them.


    I have a Bosch series 4 dryer, with a pump, but bought for about PLN 1700 in the promotion, so the price is comparable to those without a pump, it did not shrink anything, it did not even twist the bedding (although it actually turns only one way), but it still has the importance of the amount of load. I used to screw up so many clothes that it warmed more than usual. And this "behavior" of the dryer is also described in the instructions: when you load too much laundry, the heater "increases the speed" to dry more than the usual amount of laundry in a time similar to the usual drying time (approx. 2 hours).
  • #943 19540386
    klimas7
    Level 9  
    In your opinion, can a condenser dryer with a heat pump with dimensions of 60 x 60 cm be built in a cabinet without ventilation openings with dimensions of 70 x 65 (width x depth) if the cabinet is open during drying and after drying? There would be 40 cm of space above the dryer, unfortunately adding ventilation holes is not an option (hence opening during and after use). Thanks to this topic, I know that the heat pump is a very frequent failure, but I care about less heat generated (I do not want to damage the cabinet), so I would buy a 5-year warranty.

    Is such an option an option or is it a guaranteed trouble?
  • #944 19540716
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    Only at the front of the bottom should there be air access. However, the dryer does give off some heat. If it is not released into the environment, the temperature control systems may be malfunctioning.
  • #945 19540723
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    klimas7 wrote:
    In your opinion, can a condenser dryer with a heat pump with dimensions of 60 x 60 cm be built in a cabinet without ventilation openings with dimensions of 70 x 65 (width x depth) if the cabinet is open during drying and after drying?

    The dryer can do it, the condition must not be covered by the front air inlet. A wardrobe may be less happy with this solution, due to the temperature or humidity.

    klimas7 wrote:
    Thanks to this topic, I know that a heat pump is a very common breakdown

    Fairy tales written by those who have little clue. The pumps themselves, i.e. compressors, break very rarely. Usually, dryer repairs start at the age of 5-7, depending on who cares.
  • #946 19540778
    klimas7
    Level 9  
    Thanks for the info about the pump, then I will not be looking for a store with an extended warranty (and it depends on the price). The front air inlet will be unblocked, because the cabinet will be open for the entire time of operation and 1-2 hours after. As for the temperature, for sure the moisture would destroy the wardrobe quickly, I hope the temperature alone won't hurt here ....
  • #947 19540797
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    klimas7 wrote:
    in that case, I will not be forced to look for a store with an extended warranty (and it depends on the price).

    Prices are often 25 - 35% of the value of the device and it is not a guarantee, but an insurance and as such it is implemented in a completely different way.

    The temperature is less problematic because the dryer will not generate it at the level of 100 degrees, unfortunately more moisture, and you will not avoid it completely. Time will verify your idea, it also depends on the quality and workmanship of the wardrobe.
  • #948 19540804
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    You can put these guarantees into yourself. Pulling out the cash register. You are buying the cheapest with the longest warranty. And that's it.
  • #949 19603691
    pawelira
    Level 16  
    Dorilll wrote:
    A good choice, a little unnecessarily high model because the cheaper ones have practically the same parameters. No, nothing happens, I am almost 3 years of electrolux and since installing the filter I have not noticed that the drying was disturbed in any way, the working time has not increased at all. It always started about 2 hours and it is like that all the time

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    On the bed linen program, I take out the laundry 20 minutes faster, because the cooling time lasts up to 35 minutes, which means that the bedding is unnecessarily wrinkled. And you also have to remember that the laundry should be well spun


    What model would you recommend currently?
  • #950 19607179
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    I have electrolux ew8h458bp for over 3 years. Works at least 7 times a week, no problems. There are also several similar models in the family and also no problems ;)
  • #951 19607469
    pawelira
    Level 16  
    Thanks. I see that there is now a promo for the Electrolux EW9HEU478R dryer. Maybe it is worth adding?
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  • #952 19609644
    keisim
    Level 11  
    After going through, among others because of this interesting thread I chose EW8H458WP, which is currently available for PLN 2099 (promotion until 17/09). Unfortunately, prices have risen significantly since September, in line with manufacturers' announcements. The descriptions in stores and the user manual show that it is almost the same as recommended by Dorilll EW8H458BP. It differs in the color of the door (white), has a drain hose included, and is cheaper by PLN 200.

    PS Thank you very much (especially Dorilll ) for any valuable comments that can be found in this thread. Dorilll , additional filter already ordered :)
  • #953 19609780
    Dorilll
    Level 17  
    Please, my complete satisfaction is guaranteed ?
  • #954 19609782
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    And from another company, is it worth buying, for example, the cheapest MIELE model ??
  • #955 19609837
    pawelira
    Level 16  
    keisim wrote:
    After going through, among others through this interesting thread I chose EW8H458WP, which is currently available for PLN 2099. Unfortunately, prices have risen significantly since September, in line with manufacturers' announcements. The descriptions in stores and the user manual show that it is almost the same as recommended by Dorilll EW8H458BP. It differs in the color of the door (white), has a drain hose included, and is (until September 17) cheaper by PLN 200.

    PS Thank you very much (especially Dorilll ) for any valuable comments that can be found in this thread. Dorilll , additional filter already ordered :)


    Which filter did you order. The one with Beko did you cut?
  • #956 19610129
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances  
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    is it worth buying, for example, the cheapest MIELE model

    In my opinion no. Miele is holy and failure-free, the distribution of spare parts is pathetic, and when Miel hears 3/4 of the mechanics scream that he will not come to it.
  • #957 19610150
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Ok thanks for the feedback
  • #958 19610154
    pawelira
    Level 16  
    mrice wrote:
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    is it worth buying, for example, the cheapest MIELE model

    In my opinion no. Miele is holy and failure-free, the distribution of spare parts is pathetic, and when Miel hears 3/4 of the mechanics scream that he will not come to it.


    I went through the same. My grinds W527 stopped washing after 12 years.
    Nobody in the area wanted to fix it :D

    Added after 6 [hours] 28 [minutes]:

    mrice wrote:
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    is it worth buying, for example, the cheapest MIELE model

    In my opinion no. Miele is holy and failure-free, the distribution of spare parts is pathetic, and when Miel hears 3/4 of the mechanics scream that he will not come to it.


    I went through the same. My grinds W527 stopped washing after 12 years.
    Nobody in the area wanted to fix it :D
  • #959 19611283
    keisim
    Level 11  
    pawelira wrote:
    Which filter did you order. The one with Beko did you cut?


    On Allegro, I found a filter with a frame, the design of which was probably in this thread. I did not want to look any longer and ordered there ("Additional Electrolux filter").
  • #960 19622156
    andrew01
    Level 11  
    Could someone explain to me why this additional Electrolux filter works in the sense that it does not extend the drying time? After all, it limits the air flow through the fins of the exchanger, so theoretically it should reduce the effectiveness of its operation.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the comparison between Bosch's heat pump dryer model WTW85460PL and conventional condensing dryers. Users express concerns about the reliability and maintenance of heat pump dryers, citing high repair costs and potential breakdowns. Many recommend traditional condensing dryers for their simplicity and lower failure rates. The Bosch WTG86400PL is frequently mentioned as a reliable alternative. Users highlight the importance of energy efficiency, drying quality, and the impact of drying temperatures on clothing longevity. The conversation also touches on the practicality of self-cleaning condensers and the overall user experience with various brands and models.
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