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Hilti C4/36-350 Charger Issue: Green LED Flashing Every 2s, Battery Not Charging

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Why does the Hilti C4/36-350 charger flash green every 2 seconds and refuse to charge a battery?

Green flashing every ~2 s is not normal standby; in the thread it was identified as a charger power-supply/control fault, not a battery problem [#17267674] The most repeated fix path is to check the primary/standby section first: IC2/MIP2M2, Q5/Q7, the 1 Ω resistors R24/R30/R33, ZD16/ZD17, D9 and J3, and verify about 13 V on IC2 pin 4 and roughly 320–327 V on C3/pin 5 [#18686643] [#20596230] [#20760785] [#20873559] One repaired unit that had the same “green LED but no charging” symptom needed replacement of IC1, Q6, R28, J3, D9, ZD16, R31, R51, Q3, Q4, D16, D17 and F3, and then a bad PC3 optocoupler was found under the transformer; after that the charger worked normally [#18916140]
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  • Check 13 V rail, ZD14, PC5, and R42

    #241 21943849
    DRAZEK87
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    If we don’t have a steady 13 V ± 1 V on pin 4 – because I’ve noticed that every charger is a different story; some had 12 V, and even 14 V, yet they still worked properly – it’s probably down to variations in the components; and if the voltage fluctuates between 8 V and 14 V, then you clearly have a short circuit somewhere; the low-voltage converter is trying to start up, which lights up the LED, but something is holding it back – check ZD14; that 15 V Zener diode often fails; the rule is that you must have 13 V...Desolder the switches and IC1 – you’ll figure it out once the LED lights up again; behind transformer T2, you need to have just over 8V across the capacitor; once the battery is inserted, this rises to 12.6V. If a ceramic capacitor is stuck there, PC5 won’t let you get those 13V. You must have an issue with the MIPA FB signal on pin 2 – check it thoroughly and swap out PC5, because from my own experience, the transport stage can’t be checked with a multimeter, unless I’m doing something wrong, as I’ve never managed to measure it correctly; incidentally, optocoupler failure is a rare occurrence. I’ve explained exactly how to check the MIPA and what voltages you should have across it. Remove resistor R42, which powers the L6599AD, as it might be blown and the main converter is blocking everything. And remember to power it via a light bulb – unless you want to burn out expensive circuits just to check it.
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  • Vcc2 output fluctuates between 0.5V and 5V

    #242 21943896
    Piotrek k.
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    >>21943849
    Thank you for your interest and help. I have desoldered the IC1 chip; according to the attached diagrams, the ZD14 Zener diode is rated at 11V, and that is what my multimeter reads. I’ve checked all the optocouplers; I’m testing them simultaneously with a multimeter at the input and measuring the diode voltage drop at the output, but to be on the safe side I’ll replace PC5 with a new one. I was wondering whether the converter might be blocked on the Vcc2 (8.4V) output side; across capacitor C111, after transformer T2, the voltage fluctuates between 0.5V and 5V instead of 8.4V.

    I desoldered the switches and replaced ZD14 and PC5, but unfortunately there was no change. You can hear a clicking sound from the converter as it tries to start up, but something is blocking it. The thermal imaging scan also shows nothing.
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  • Check C111, C141 and MCU pin 29 voltages

    #243 21943936
    DRAZEK87
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    If the charger is working properly, thermal imaging won’t tell us much here, as I’ve never come across a case where something heated up immediately; however, there are three components that overheat particularly badly despite the unit functioning correctly: the diode on the secondary side (D104), the MIP itself gets quite hot, and I think there are three resistors on the primary side that discharge the charge – that’s how I recall it, though I can’t double-check right now; but the temperatures of these components didn’t exceed 40 degrees; the rest were at room temperature.

    In my opinion, you can’t test the optocoupler properly with a multimeter until you’ve fitted it; if you apply the correct voltage to the diode, it should work; but if you fit a faulty one, you’re out of luck; I’ve never been able to measure it correctly. Apart from that, out of a hundred power supplies I’ve repaired, let’s say I’ve had about three cases where the optocouplers were damaged, but that was because the electronics were completely blown, for example after a storm.

    So, as far as I’m concerned, if the processor isn’t working properly, you won’t have a green LED.
    Behind T2, you’ll find capacitor C111 – check that it reads 8.4V and that there’s no short circuit;
    Next, look for C141 – it must read exactly 5V. It’s on the left in the schematic I’m showing, which depicts the circuit with LED100
    Check the voltage at pin 29 of the processor, as this pin controls the LED; there must be 0V there (during standby and whilst the battery is charging; if 5V appears there, the LED will go out and one of the protection circuits – e.g. thermal, current or voltage – will have tripped).
    Pin 29 should tell you whether a protection circuit has tripped or if there’s a short circuit somewhere.
    Above all, start by checking whether the microcontroller has a stable 5V supply on pins 14, 21 or 25.
    And if your processor is blown, the charger is ‘rubbish’ because you won’t be able to reprogram the processor as you won’t get a signal; the chip itself is fairly easy to source. Unless, of course, you’ve got a spare and can take one from another charger that has a burnt-out primary circuit. Because damage to the secondary circuit in these chargers is rare, unless there’s mechanical damage to the laminate or water damage.
    For the green LED to work, there doesn’t need to be a battery, the IC1 chip or transistors; it’s important that the secondary side is working properly, because the voltage from T2 powers the processor, and it sends a signal via PC5 to activate the 13V circuit; only after the battery is inserted does the processor activate PC4, supplying power to IC1, which in turn activates the main converter and regulates it via PC3. It is also important to note that, once the battery is connected, there is a quick check to determine what voltage the charger should be set to, along with a current measurement; and this is precisely where chargers in this sector fail – they start charging and then, after say 30 seconds, switch off because the converter is not supplying current. If the charging cycle switches off immediately after the relay is activated, this means a safety mechanism has tripped – for example, a faulty PTC1 = 470R or TC101 = 10kR, which, in my opinion, is used in this charger as a fan safety device; if the fan were to stop spinning, this sensor would detect it and switch off the converters.
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  • #244 21943957
    Piotrek k.
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    >>21943936
    The voltage across capacitor C141 and on the processor’s power supply fluctuates between 0.3 V and 3 V, but when Vcc2 fluctuates, this is probably normal, as it is the source of the processor’s voltage.
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  • Ceramic capacitor fault causing intermittent green LED flashing

    #245 21944760
    DRAZEK87
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    That’s right, Vcc2 is 5V and that powers the processor. Desolder diode D124 to cut off the power supply to PC3; we’ll then know if it’s still fluctuating, though from experience I know that if IC103 – the amplifier – isn’t working, LED100 will go out; the amplifier is responsible for measuring the current through the shunt. You’ve got a short circuit somewhere, or the current or voltage protection is tripping too quickly; By the way, check all the ceramic capacitors on the secondary side of the board to see if any are shorted; note that the board is covered with a fairly thick layer of varnish, which makes measurement very difficult – your probes might not make a good enough contact to give a correct result. Tell me the voltages you’re getting at the MIP, but be careful as there’s over 320 V on pin 5; take the ground from capacitor C3 (390 µF/400 V) and, above all!!! Before you start soldering, tell me what voltage you’re getting across C3, the main mains capacitor, because if there’s ripple there, the first stage will fail – the one I’ve struggled with quite a bit: the stage with diodes ZD1–ZD6, Q10 and Q7. The PC1 segment very often gets damaged. Capacitor C3 charges quite slowly when the charger is first switched on, precisely because of this block – it’s like a soft start for the charger, but it’s not a typical PFC. I once had a charger like this where a small ceramic capacitor failed – it lost its capacitance near Q7 – and no matter what I did, the charger refused to light up the green LED; it kept flashing intermittently. I replaced practically everything that controls the circuit, and only the capacitors remained; in desperation, I replaced them all with new ones and happened to find the faulty one. In these chargers, ceramic capacitors fail very frequently and wreak havoc on the circuit board, blowing circuits and burning out tracks and components.
  • #246 21945248
    Piotrek k.
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    >>21944760
    I’ve given up; I’m closing this thread. Thank you very much for your suggestions; it’s always more encouraging when someone with knowledge and experience suggests something I’d never have thought of myself. I described the voltages across C3 and MIP in my first post/query. Also, at the end of my struggle, I desoldered and checked T1, T2 and PC3 – everything’s fine (unless T2 has an inter-turn short or a damaged core, but I can’t check that). Thank you once again for your patience and help.
    Best regards

Topic summary

✨ Discussion of a Hilti C4/36-350 battery charger that shows a flashing green LED every 2 seconds and does not start charging. The thread focuses on diagnosing failures in the primary power supply and control section: burned tracks, blown jumpers/resistors, shorted zener diodes, damaged MOSFETs/transistors, and faults around the L6599AD resonant controller and MIP2M2 auxiliary supply IC. Several repair attempts are described, including replacing IC1, IC2, optocouplers, zeners, and power transistors, checking the 13 V supply on IC1/IC2 pins, measuring the high-voltage bus, and tracing the feedback loop. Later posts identify common damaged parts such as ZD16, ZD17, Q5/Q10, PC3/PC4, R24/R30/R33/R51, and the main switching transistors Q3/Q4, with some cases resolved by replacing the correct zener values and the L6599AD or MIP2M2 chips.
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TL;DR: 80 % of C4/36-350 shutdowns are “caused by the MIP2M2 plus three 1 Ω resistors” [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20760785] “Replace the chip and the charger works” [Elektroda, teskot, post #18916140]

Why it matters: Fixing this €200 charger often costs < €5 in parts.

Quick Facts

• Stand-by LED blinks every 2 s = no HV supply, check MIP2M2 chain [Elektroda, rsv6, post #17267845] • Correct DC on C3 main cap: 320–330 VDC at 230 VAC input [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20873167] • L6599AD VCC must stay 12–16 V (14 V typical) or the main inverter latches off [STMicro, 2019]. • Optocoupler PC4 turns on only with battery inserted; LED side gets 4–6 mA from MCU pin 7 [Elektroda, florian_1034, post #21313155]

Why does the green LED flash every 2 seconds with no battery?

The flash means the standby SMPS around MIP2M2 lacks a stable 13 V output. Check the three series 1 Ω resistors (R24 / R30 / R33). If any are open, pin 4 (VCC) of MIP2M2 collapses and the LED blinks [Elektroda, PiterSen151, post #20873381]

Which parts fail most often in Hilti C4/36-350 chargers?

Forum repairs show 80 % of dead units need only the MIP2M2 IC plus the three 1 Ω resistors replaced; 60 % of those also need the L6599AD driver IC [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20760785]

How do I test if my MIP2M2 is shorted?

With power off, measure resistance between pins 5 and 7. Anything below 300 kΩ (often tens of ohms) means the internal MOSFET is shorted and the IC is dead [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20873559]

The charger clicks on for 5 s then stops—what now?

That pattern means the MCU sees no charge current. Common reasons:
  1. L6599AD not powered (PC4 path open).
  2. High-side MOSFETs Q3/Q4 shorted or open.
  3. Current-sense network (R31 + ZD16 + D9) faulty [Elektroda, teskot, post #18916140]

What voltage should be on C3 main capacitor?

At 230 VAC the rectifier, triac and EMC filter should leave 320–330 VDC on C3. If it pulses or stays < 200 V, check Q10 (BSS138N), Q7 (BC817DPN) and ZD1-ZD6 75 V TVS ladder that drive triac CR1 [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20872003]

Can I replace optocoupler VO615A-9 with PC817?

Yes. Multiple users confirmed PC817 works for PC3 and PC5 positions without altering feedback accuracy [Elektroda, krakarak, post #20418803]

Edge-case: why does my LED smoke at power-up?

If LED100 sees > 12 V it overheats. This happens when PC5 fails—R111/R112 divider opens and C111 rises to 12–13 V instead of 8.4 V. Replace PC5 and rebuild the divider [Elektroda, vkudryakov, post #21551803]

How to quickly verify the HV stage before buying parts?

  1. Un-solder MIP2M2 and MOSFET keys.
  2. Apply mains; measure 320 V on C3.
  3. Confirm pin 5 pad shows 320 V and pin 4 pad ~0.5 V. If ok, HV section is healthy [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20873167]

What is the small SMPS transformer marked Z3M8A?

It is the 13 V/8.4 V auxiliary flyback for logic power. No commercial replacement exists; salvage from donors or rewind (primary 2×110 T, secondary 2×12 T 0.3 mm, measured on intact unit) [Elektroda, manuelconso98, post #21528235]

My charger works only with nearly full batteries—why?

The MCU disables charge if cell voltage < 24 V and current feedback missing. Faulty shunt resistor R105 or op-amp LM358 (IC103) causes premature cutoff at low pack voltage [Elektroda, marchakoleg911, post #21480299]

How do I reset latch-off after a fault?

Simply remove AC for 10 s. Both MIP2M2 and L6599AD use latched protections that clear only after VCC drops below 4 V [STMicro, 2019].

What’s the function of PTC1 beside Q4?

It is a 470 Ω PTC. When Q4 heat-sink exceeds ~125 °C its resistance rises, DIS pin sees > 1.8 V and L6599AD shuts down [Elektroda, DRAZEK87, post #20801282]

3-step quick fix for ‘dead-silent’ units

  1. Measure C3; if < 300 V replace triac CR1 or ZD1-ZD6 ladder.
  2. If 320 V present, check R24/R30/R33 for 1 Ω open.
  3. Still dead? Replace MIP2M2 and verify 13 V on pin 4.
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