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SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters

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  • #961 19720969
    rokbok
    Level 38  
    lary504 wrote:
    Although the g3 sofar is probably 13A, it will not exceed.


    I just wrote about it ;) , usually MPPT inputs are connected when there are two strings connected in parallel, then the current sums up and exceeds the allowable input current of the inverter.
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  • #962 19721060
    caged
    Level 10  
    Thank you for the quick answers, i.e. the panels in one string and one MPPT, probably the best solution, and the other MPPT will be for the expansion of the installation because I plan to do so.
  • #963 19721078
    lary504
    Level 12  
    If you thought about expansion, sofara 8.8 was better. You will not go crazy here anymore because it will cut production.
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  • #965 19721150
    lary504
    Level 12  
    That two panels are not enough for a string. If so, now make 2 strings with 7 panels each and then just add one to the string
  • #966 19721245
    caged
    Level 10  
    And how much can I fasten so that it does not cut? For now, I will give you one string and if something is then I will divide it into 2 equal.
  • #967 19721284
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    lary504 wrote:
    If you connect the inputs in parallel, the current will be half the input. Although the g3 sofar is probably 13A, it will not exceed.


    Exactly, the current is distributed over two inputs, moreover, many manufacturers recommend connecting both inputs despite connecting 1 string.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    caged wrote:
    that is, panels in one string and one MPPT is probably the best solution, and the other MPPT will be for the expansion of the installation because I plan to do so.

    No, one string and both MPPTs connected in parallel.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    caged wrote:
    And how much can I fasten so that it does not cut? For now, I will give you one string and if something is then I will divide it into 2 equal.

    6.6kW has a max MPPT of 850V, you already have almost 800, so only one panel can be added.
    16 panels in two are not enough again. Then there will be only ~ 320V on 1 string, which will be on the border of 'full load' page 17 pdf.
  • #968 19721386
    rokbok
    Level 38  
    Janusz_kk wrote:
    6.6kW has a max MPPT of 850V


    Maybe 1100V though, unless we are looking at different datasheets.

    Janusz_kk wrote:
    No, one string and both MPPTs connected in parallel.


    You can justify it, one string is 6370 Wp / inverter 9000 Wp, panel voltage Voc 693 V / inverter input max 1100 V, starting voltage 160 V, voltage range 140 - 1000 V, nominal voltage 650 V, maximum panel power current 10.92 A / inverter input current 13 A, panel short-circuit current 11.66 A / inverter short-circuit current 18 A, even if he adds two panels, the current will not change anything, the voltage will be within the range, so why do you suggest MPPT bridging with one string?
  • #969 19721417
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    rokbok wrote:
    panel maximum power current 10.92 A / inverter input current 13 A, panel short-circuit current 11.66 A / inverter, short-circuit current 18 A,

    Well, by this the max is 11A. SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters
    I have already given pdf a file before, and here it is about connecting
    SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    rokbok wrote:
    Maybe 1100V though, unless we are looking at different datasheets.

    You are looking wrong, max input voltage is 1000V and MPPT is 850, in the second photo it shows.
  • #970 19721426
    rokbok
    Level 38  
    Check the datasheet of the SOFAR 6.6KTLX-G3 inverter given by @caged, below I present the screenshot for the second time.

    SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters
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  • #971 19721432
    lary504
    Level 12  
    Janusz_kk You pass KTL-X to Sofar and he has KTL-X G3 and has 13A and 1100V
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  • #972 19721460
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    lary504 wrote:
    Janusz_kk You pass KTL-X to Sofar and He has KTL-X G3 and has 13A and 1100V

    Ok, I did not notice, which does not change the fact that the manufacturer recommends connecting MPPT in parallel as they are unused, which I gave in the second screenshot.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    And the full MPPT range is also 850V, as I can see, so it can still give max 15 panels in a string.
  • #973 19721469
    lary504
    Level 12  
    If he is going to add panels, I would do two strings at once and then just fasten it.
  • #974 19721963
    caged
    Level 10  
    Here is a photo from the catalog card of what I got with the inverter SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters
  • #975 19724341
    binio1111
    Level 9  
    I read in the topic about the different versions of the software. Can someone tell me which one I have? Does this label show it?
    SOFAR 8kW PV Installation: Opinions, Durability, Failures & Experiences with Inverters
  • #976 19724357
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    After all, it writes to you, max 11A, 950V MPPT, as I read correctly from this poor photo.
  • #977 19724410
    binio1111
    Level 9  
    Am I writing misunderstood? I am asking for the software version and you are reading the parameters here.
    Maybe I'll ask otherwise. Where exactly is the software version information on the sofa?
  • #978 19724453
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    binio1111 wrote:
    Where exactly is the software version information on the sofa?

    Probably somewhere on the menu, it was here somewhere at the beginning.
  • #979 19724454
    prose
    Level 35  
    From the G3.00 sticker. And on the display in info.
  • #980 19726254
    binio1111
    Level 9  
    Ok. Thanks. I was confused by this sticker because the thread mentioned the V versions ... and here is G.
  • #981 19728381
    kestutisU
    Level 1  
    Hello, I bought a Sofar 12KTL-X I need to change the overvoltage values. The instructions say you need to save a txt file to the card. The question is where to get that txt file
  • #982 19731570
    rustin
    Level 15  
    Gentlemen, sofar or foxes for 10x410W?
  • #983 19736594
    ter12
    Level 11  
    rustin wrote:
    Gentlemen, so far or foxes for 10x410W?


    Avoid Sofara. If something falls, you stay without equipment for a month.
  • #984 19736652
    rustin
    Level 15  
    Were there many such cases or was it just yours?
  • #985 19736796
    Radio-T
    Level 10  
    Sorry for the littering - post moved to a separate thread (cannot be canceled).

    Hello everyone,

    I am in front of the purchase of a photovoltaic installation. Roof slopes 41 degrees on 4 sides. Little space to the south via DHW solar panels and a swallow. Generally, the panels are planned to the east and west (with a slight curvature to the south). I am planning a hybrid installation with the UPS function (off-grid operation possible) with a later purchase of a battery.

    From the many offers I received, I chose the 2 most comprehensively presented configurations:

    COMPANY A (large - with twelve branches in major cities and "thousands of installations", it is said that it is to enter the stock exchange soon):
    - 2 strings x 8 panels, power max. 6.56kW. Type SUNPRO POWER 410W SP410-108M (Uoc = 31.25V, Umpp = 37.33, but the calculated minimum voltage for 70 degrees C is 27.59V / panel which gives 220.72V for a string of 8 panels), warranty 30 years for efficiency> 83.5%
    - HUAWEI SUN2000-6KTL-M0 or SOFAR HYD 6KTL-3PH inverter.

    My analysis of the above-mentioned parameters and calculations shows that:
    1. for both inverters the maximum current in strings is exceeded (the panels have a maximum of 13.41A, and the inverters have a maximum of 11A (SUN) and 12A (SOFAR)
    2. for both offered inverters, the string voltage at the MPPT inputs of the inverter is too low to achieve the maximum power (220.72V) and 285V (SUN) or 320V is needed! (SOFAR)
    3. The inverters are significantly scaled in terms of the power provided by the panels (practically the strings will work interchangeably), which I suppose will give the max power. from panels in the range of 3.3kW to 4.5kW.

    COMPANY B (smaller, private, headquartered in one of the largest cities in eastern Poland):
    - 2 strings x 6 panels - power max. 5.4kW. ML type ML-S6MF / T1-450-144 system - 450W (Uoc = 49.8V, Umpp = 41.00, the calculated minimum voltage for 70 degrees C is 43.97V / panel which gives 263.82V for a string of 6 panels), 25-year warranty for efficiency> 83%, product warranty: 12 years?!
    - HUAWEI SUN2000-5KTL-M1 inverter.

    My analysis of the above-mentioned parameters and calculations shows that:
    1. for the inverter, the maximum current in strings is slightly exceeded (the panels have a maximum of 11.82A, and the inverter is max. 11A),
    2. The inverter is significantly scaled in terms of the power supplied by the panels, analogous to the above case.
    3. It amazes me to give a guarantee for efficiency twice as long as for the entire product? !!! (assuming that the "producer" does not collapse in the next year).

    The above-mentioned proposals are the least shocking tip of the iceberg among other received offers, the substantive value of which is not even worth mentioning here.
    Unfortunately, I have an electrical education with qualifications and I can still read and understand offers in related fields. But is no one in this country able to give a solid offer for fair (large) money (rhetorical question)?

    Could I ask my colleagues for suggestions on the above-mentioned offers? In particular, as for the quality of the proposed components and what solution based on the above-mentioned information, my colleagues would recommend me for a price of around 25,000-30,000.
    I would like to do it myself, but I do not have such a possibility, so I would use a solid offer from a trusted professional :) from the vicinity of Krakow.

    regards
    and thank you for any suggestions

    Andrew
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  • #986 19737672
    igorelectronics
    Level 12  
    ter12 wrote:
    rustin wrote:
    Gentlemen, sofar or foxes for 10x410W?


    Avoid Sofara. If something falls, you stay without equipment for a month.


    Even two :( .
  • #987 19737987
    prose
    Level 35  
    kestutisU wrote:
    The question is where to get this txt file
    As far as I know it's from the inverter manufacturer.
  • #988 19739208
    ic
    Level 13  
    Hello everyone. I have a Sofar 6.6 ktl-x. I unscrewed the screws on the front but can't remove the front cover. Are there any more hidden screws?
    Thank you for your answer.
  • #989 19739303
    rustin
    Level 15  
    A lot of people have an inverter outside? Nothing is happening to him.
  • #990 19739313
    Krzychooo
    Level 16  
    ic wrote:
    Are there any more hidden screws?
    There are gaskets that can stick a little bit and hold tighter than you may have tried.
    Carefully try from one corner but "no tension".

Topic summary

The discussion centers on experiences with Sofar inverters in approximately 8kW photovoltaic (PV) installations, focusing on technical issues, durability, and configuration challenges. Users report generally stable operation with models like Sofar 6.6KTL-X and 5.5KTL-X over extended periods, though some face connectivity problems, especially with Wi-Fi and software availability. A recurring technical problem involves input voltage exceeding the maximum allowed 600V DC for single-phase Sofar inverters (notably the 4KTLM-G2), causing errors such as PVOVP and BusOPV and inverter shutdowns. This is often due to too many PV panels connected in series on a single string, with 15 Q.CELLS Q.PEAK G4.1 305W panels sometimes exceeding voltage limits, especially in cold conditions where voltage rises. Solutions include splitting panels into two strings (e.g., 8 and 7 panels) connected to separate MPPT inputs, though some users report this does not fully resolve the issue. The maximum recommended panels per MPPT input is around 9 to avoid surpassing power and voltage limits. Users also discuss the need for three-phase inverters for larger installations above 7kW on a single phase due to grid operator restrictions. Software and firmware updates are sought after but not easily accessible, with some users lacking Polish language support. Comparisons with other brands like SMA and Fronius highlight Sofar's cost advantage but raise concerns about long-term reliability and service support, which is still developing in some regions. Network-related errors such as Grid OFP (over-frequency) have been reported, with troubleshooting involving network frequency checks and inverter restarts. Overall, Sofar inverters are considered a cost-effective option with some technical caveats related to system design, installation quality, and support infrastructure.
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