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Huawei SUN2000 Inverter: WIFI Dongle Connection, Firmware Update & FusionSolar

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  • #1201 20963989
    vidoc
    Level 11  
    >>20963927

    I have the same problem in the SUN2000 app - the dongle has version SPC108 and I wanted to update. Unfortunately, I can`t find it, neither scanning the code nor trying to disconnect and connect the dongle helps. I asked the installer for remote installation - I will let you know if it works

    #update

    I managed to update using the installer account - updated to the SPC133 version - I have it in other inverters and it works without problems, but for me the function of sending data via TCP to the pvmonitor is important
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  • #1202 21020335
    szeryfff
    Level 24  
    Hi,
    I have a question about the string power settings in the inverter.
    Originally I had 8 panels (370Wp) per string, so in the settings I have 2.96kWp per string.
    A year ago I added 3 panels (1 to the first string, 2 to the second). The installation team did not change the settings in the inverter. I wonder if it makes any difference and should I change it now?
    Regards
    Table showing inverter string settings, indicating two strings with 2960 Wp each.
  • #1203 21020357
    jhahamer
    Level 12  

    This is just informational data, does not affect the production of the inverter. I also added it there once, but since I don't have installer permissions, it contains old data.
  • #1204 21020400
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    szeryfff wrote:
    Originally I had 8 panels (370Wp) per string, so in the settings I have 2.96kWp per string.
    A year ago I added 3 panels (1 to the first string, 2 to the second). The installation team did not change the settings in the inverter. I wonder if it makes any difference and should I change it now?


    What is not entered has no effect. However, it is very important that you added the panels to the string. Is it the same model? Or only a panel with similar parameters?
    Sometimes, when adding 1 panel to a string that had 4-5 panels, we get a decrease instead of an improvement :]
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  • #1206 21021105
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    Hello.

    Gentlemen, I am looking for software for the 100KTL-M2 inverter.
  • #1209 21022644
    szeryfff
    Level 24  
    Hey, I finally managed to connect to the dongle. I wanted to upgrade to version 135, I have 123. After selecting the file and sending it to the dongle, I get the message "no device to update", or something like that.
    Anyone have any ideas why this is so? Maybe I need to post some intermediate version?
  • #1210 21040007
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    I have an inverter
    SUN2000-8KTL-M1

    How much power can I connect to it? 8 kW? Or more?

    ps.
    Of course, the point is not that I will connect 10 kW panels and it will only be able to process 8 kW anyway.
    I understand that if I connect too much, energy will simply be wasted sometimes, and not that I will burn the inverter?
  • #1211 21040038
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    szczukot wrote:
    I understand that if I connect too much, energy will simply be wasted sometimes, and not that I will burn the inverter?

    You can burn out the inverter if the DC power exceeds the maximum allowed for it. 12kWp is the maximum power for this model.
    But it`s about total instantaneous power. So if you have, for example, 7 kWP panels to the east and 7 kWp to the west, it is doubtful that the total instantaneous power will exceed 12 kWp.
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  • #1212 21040056
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    Well, I see these 12,000 Wp in the card
    I have panels for one side.
    If their STC is 445, I have 16 pcs, the maximum STC would be 7.1 kW. And sometimes the inverter shows me something around 7.5 kW. I don`t get it. I have better conditions than in the laboratories.
    After all, realistically it should be more according to NOCT, so I should not exceed 5.5 kW

    But ok. So if, let`s say, I add a few panels (3 kW to the existing 7 kW), and the output will be, for example, 10 kW, will this inverter handle it without any problems?
  • #1213 21040059
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    How are these panels connected? Series, parallel, mixed? How many thongs?
    I currently have SUN2000-4KTL-M0 and 5.65 kWp panels.

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    szczukot wrote:
    So if, let`s say, I add a few panels (3 kW to the existing 7 kW), and the output will be, for example, 10 kW, will this inverter handle it without any problems?

    If you add 6-7 panels to the current string, you will get very close to the maximum allowable operating voltage, which is 980V for this inverter, and even to the theoretical limit of 1100V. I have 435W panels and the voltage on them during operation is 45V. Also, multiplying 45x22 in your case we get 990V. It`s already too much. So a bit risky. You will also lose minimal efficiency (by 0.5%). It`s probably better to add a second string of only 7 panels. The minimum operating voltage is 200V, so it should be OK. But you have to pull cables.
  • #1214 21040090
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    In series, 1 string.

    Well, I guess I`ll add, for example, 3 panels now. It will be a quiet 8.5 kW, without additional cables and the risk of too high voltage.

    In total, to legally fit in these 10 kW per house (for 80% recovery), I can add a maximum of 6 such panels? Because I understand that the STC of the panels is counted?
  • #1215 21040096
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    Then ask your energy company how they calculate it.
  • #1216 21040099
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    And how do they count, for example in your case?
    I have ENEA.
  • #1217 21042089
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    szczukot wrote:
    I have an inverter
    SUN2000-8KTL-M1


    Let me answer "in order"
    So yes, 8KTL had two versions: 8KTL-M1 and 8KTL-M1 HC, check if you didn't miss this HC.

    However, assuming that you have 8KTL-M1, the max voltage is 1100V, max current 11A. So theoretically, the maximum value of panels you can connect is 12,100W.

    If you want maximum efficiency, this inverter is able to process 8KWp + 10%, which means you have a maximum output of 8.8 kW.

    If you have the optimal angle, i.e. 30-35 degrees, then I don't see much point in connecting e.g. 10-12 kWp to this inverter, because with nice sun you will push 8.8 kW into the grid anyway, and investing just for the morning, evening and autumn, winter makes sense I do not see.

    szczukot wrote:
    If their STC is 445, I have 16 pcs, the maximum STC would be 7.1 kW. And sometimes the inverter even shows something around 7.5 kW. I don't get it. I have better conditions than in the laboratories.


    Provide the exact model of the panel and I will tell you what to say, because based on what you wrote, it's just guesswork ;) . Let me just say one thing: the panel has such characteristics that the colder it is, the higher its voltage and, consequently, the better its efficiency. Often around March/April it can reach in peaks of a few minutes above what is shown on the catalog card, and in June it is already below :]

    szczukot wrote:
    Well, I guess I'll add, for example, 3 panels now. It will be a quiet 8.5 kW, without additional cables and the risk of too high voltage.


    Now, when it comes to expansion (I assume that you have had the installation for a long time because the inverter is probably several years old), there is a certain technical problem.
    You can add the same panels to the string as you have, i.e. with the same parameters, but it may be difficult to do because the "old" panels had an operating current of about 11A and a short-circuit current of 13A, while those that are currently available have an operating current of about 13.5A and short-circuit 16A. So either look for a warehouse deckchair (the price will be crazy because it will be much higher than the current market price for the same power), or make a second string.
    In the case of the second string (it needs to be connected to the second MPPT, not terminals 2+ and 2-) it will be "easier" but also not so nice, the panels may have different parameters, but two problems arise again:
    1. the minimum voltage on the string for this inverter is 200V to start production from the inverter, so you probably won't get it with 3 panels, I bet that only 5-6 will do the trick.
    2. The inverter has a maximum current of 11A, so it will be difficult to find one again :]

    szczukot wrote:
    And how do they count, for example in your case?
    I have ENEA.

    Energa counts the maximum power of the generating source, in this case PV panels. So if you have 9kWp panels and a KTL8 inverter, you're at 80%, but if you install 11kWp panels, it doesn't matter that you have an inverter that can only "push" 8.8kW, you're still at 70%.
  • #1218 21042202
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    I have 8KTL-M1 (without HC)

    I`m 99% sure I have these panels
    https://sklep.solaris.energy/panel-fotowoltaiczny-lr4-72hih-445m-longi

    So it would seem that it is best to add the same or similar 3 panels to the existing string (string? :) )
    This will give me almost 8.5 kW STC

    Or add 6 pieces (if you find some cheap ones on sale, etc.), it will give 9.8 kW and use a maximum of 8.8 kW, but at the same time produce more in bad periods. And I can add these 6 to the existing chain or create a second one.

    But the fact is, I am severely limited in my choice of panels. I didn`t notice that the new ones now have 13A and not 11A.
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  • #1219 21042217
    jsw
    Level 14  

    Optimizers are cheap now. Do full optimization, all problems with voltage, current will disappear,
    topology, differences between panels, exceeding the maximum power of the inverter.
  • #1220 21042657
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    szczukot wrote:

    Very nice panels, I have the same ones but in the 450 version. There were 2 versions: lr4-72hih-450m and lr4-72hph-450m, with almost identical parameters, so theoretically you can combine them in the same string.

    I suggest doing this: add 4 lr4-72hih/hph-445 panels. You will have a total of 8900, or 111.25% of the inverter power. There will be very occasional "cuts" of power to 8800W, but the losses are so small that overall it will be a plus. Finding these panels may be a problem. In the wholesaler where I buy it, they currently have 1 piece in stock (old price: PLN 700 net). Maybe Allegro/OLX and some stimulants will be available... the price will definitely be better.
    Then a small revolution, if all the panels look in the same direction, make 2 strings and connect them to connector 1 and 3 of the inverter so that they are on separate MPPTs. The strings will be able to operate at various peak power parameters, and theoretically have a 0-3% gain.

    jsw wrote:
    Optimizers are cheap now. Perform full optimization, all problems with voltage, current, topology, differences between panels, and exceeding the maximum power of the inverter will disappear.

    I`ll say this nonsense, don`t listen...
    Full optimization is 16 optimizers for what you have + 4 optimizers for new panels + 4 new panels.
    optimizer (450-P, because 450-P2 will not be compatible) price about PLN 170
    the new panel MUST have a power of up to 450W, so most of the new 465-530 panels are out of the question anyway, but there is no problem with the fact that it must be the same model, e.g. the cheap Chinese Qnsolar 450W QNM182-HS450-60 PLN 355
    In total you have PLN 4,820, I don`t see the point. But technically it`s possible.
  • #1221 21042710
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    That`s why I wrote that I`m 99% sure I have them, because I don`t know if it`s HIH or HPH. The offer gave me something different and the calculations gave me something different. I would probably have to read the label on the roof.
    Are there any significant differences?

    These 445-450 can sometimes be found for PLN 500 - the delivery costs more than the panel :(

    So "visually" it suits me to add 3, 6 or 9 :)
    So without replacing the inverter, 3 or 6 are in question.
  • #1222 21042749
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    szczukot wrote:
    I would probably have to read the label on the roof.

    This is what you need to check on the panel.
    There are no significant differences, but if you have different calculations and a different offer, the question is whether you are sure you have assumed what is on paper :). I have already encountered such "scams", and whether they are combined in one string is very important.
    lr4 was from 425 to 455, so also check the power, because the power would have to be the same.

    szczukot wrote:
    These 445-450 can sometimes be found for PLN 500 - the delivery costs more than the panel

    As a consolation, I will say that if you order 3, it is usually one shipment anyway ;) , but compared to the price of new ones it's still amazing.

    szczukot wrote:
    So "visually" it suits me to add 3, 6 or 9

    you can also add 3 or 6, I wrote about 4 because usually in this size they were in 2 rows.
    But even if you decide on 3, I would personally unzip the thongs to make them more "equal", and besides, 3 pieces alone will not work on a single thong. And with 19 in one string you are very close to the maximum voltage of the inverter. And I will emphasize once again that they should be on separate MPPTs (99% of the time, 1i2 DC connector is 1MPPT, and 3i4 DC connector is 2MPPT).

    szczukot wrote:
    So without replacing the inverter, 3 or 6 are in question.

    If you are on net-metering (old rules), assuming 9 units is completely pointless because you have 11.25 kW, but you jump into the 70% settlement and ultimately you are behind. 70% is profitable for people who either have auto consumption of 80% in the summer (I have never met anyone like that). I know from experience that if you have a heat pump, 10kW (at 80%) = 12kW (at 70%).
    So as you can see, 9 panels make no sense... unless you care about aesthetics because the entire roof will be nicely covered xD
  • #1223 21046356
    rutekjery
    Level 6  

    Hello

    I have exactly the same inverter model, i.e. SUN2000-8KTL-M1, and I currently have 18 Longi LR4-72HPH-450M panels connected in series, i.e. a total of 8.1 kWP. Everything connected to one string via 450W-P optimizers. Everything runs without any problem.

    I'm thinking about adding more panels and I have a few comments here that maybe more advanced users will comment on and advise.

    1. First of all, I would like to stay with one string due to big problems (installation on the roof) with laying additional wiring to the second string (unfortunately, I did not foresee a few years ago that I would want to enlarge the installation.)
    2. Taking into account the above and the parameters of the panels and the inverter, am I correctly calculating that adding two additional identical panels is fully acceptable and safe? The operating voltage range of the inverter is 140 - 980 V. 20 panels with an open circuit voltage (Voc/V) of 49.3 V give us a total of 986 V, which means that in theory I exceed the range by only 6 V. The maximum input voltage of the inverter is 1100 V.
    3. If I wanted to add 4 panels and achieve a total power of 9.9 kWP, is the only option to add cabling and divide it into two strings?
    4. I found practically identical panels at a very good price, i.e. LR4-72HPH-460, i.e. 460W instead of 450. Can adding 2 pieces in this single string cause any problems, but I assume that I would also use optimizers for them

    Thanks in advance for your help
  • #1224 21046371
    jsw
    Level 14  

    Huawei 3-10kW inverters, when fully optimized, allow 10kW DC PER CHAIN.
    Inverter-controlled optimizers will not allow any exceedances.
    Go ahead and add these 4 panels and think about an additional east-west chain on the second MPTT input.
    I also dedicate the answer to my colleague who calls the idea of full optimization nonsense.
  • #1225 21046396
    velkhor
    Level 10  
    Out of curiosity, you have optimizers because:
    a) the commune was established
    b) there is shading of the roof
    c) it is required by the fire protection agreement

    rutekjery wrote:
    2. Taking into account the above and the parameters of the panels and the inverter, am I correctly calculating that adding two additional identical panels is fully acceptable and safe? The operating voltage range of the inverter is 140 - 980 V. 20 panels with an open circuit voltage (Voc/V) of 49.3 V give us a total of 986 V, which means that in theory I exceed the range by only 6 V. The maximum input voltage of the inverter is 1100 V.

    I`ll start the answer from the other side...
    This means that the open circuit voltage < max input voltage. You should not practically reach the maximum open circuit voltage, because when the inverter switches on the production, the voltage drops.

    And now the second part of the answer... The panels do not have to be identical because you have optimizers. It would be good if they were similar in terms of parameters, and of course I recommend using optimizers. 2 pieces don`t cost a fortune and in the event of (knock on wood) fire etc. you have a voltage-free circuit. The voltage occurs in the panel-optimizer circuit and is approximately 50V.
    And if you already have such a system with optimizers, the maximum voltage does not really concern you, because the voltage behind the optimizer is completely different than on the panel.
    Take a look at the instantaneous voltage (of course, divide the string voltage into the number of panels), the instantaneous current and the instantaneous power... it doesn`t compare with the panel power diagram. ;)

    rutekjery wrote:
    3. If I wanted to add 4 panels and achieve a total power of 9.9 kWP, is the only option to add cabling and divide it into two strings?

    This solution makes little sense, especially since with 4 panels you need 4 more optimisers and the profit will not be proportional at all. Practice says that the panel power = 115% of the inverter power (assuming that the inverter absorbs 10% more, and this is almost standard).
    So your result is 9.2, so I wouldn`t go for 4 panels, considering that it still requires a lot of modifications to the roof.

    rutekjery wrote:
    4. I found practically identical panels at a very good price, i.e. LR4-72HPH-460, i.e. 460W instead of 450. Can adding 2 pieces in this single string cause any problems, but I assume that I would also use optimizers for them

    Yes and no :]
    I suggest setting up with optimizers (of course, use the optimizers in the P version, not P2). And here is the problem, because the optimizers were in the 450 version, so 10W less. There are 600W optimizers, but I don`t know if they are compatible with 450, I haven`t had a chance to mix them. However, they appear in the datasheet of the 450-P2, so it may be different.
    Coming back to the optimizers 460W/450W = 1.022222222, i.e. 2% more, exceeded, but I think it should be at a safe level.

    Once I got through all this, I read....
    rutekjery wrote:
    Can adding 2 pieces in this single string cause any problems, and I assume I would also use optimizers for them?

    ....ehhh and all you had to do was reply YES :)

    P.S. Of course, any exceeding of parameters always means working beyond the limits specified by the manufacturer. So you may have problems with the warranty, or something may break, etc... but if the limit is <5% it should be ok.

    as my friend so helpfully pointed out...
    jsw wrote:
    2/ the maximum panel power for 450W-P and 450W-P2 is the same and is 472.5W and for 600W-P 630W

    so it will be OK.

    I have already seen installations that, in principle, should not work, or should burn during startup, but they worked, let me tell you more... even an installer with a D/E stamp was able to sign it :)
  • #1226 21046419
    jsw
    Level 14  

    Buddy, please read the Huawei product data sheets carefully.
    1/ you can mix all 450W-P, 450W-P2 and 600W-P optimizers in one chain
    2/ the maximum panel power for 450W-P and 450W-P2 is the same and is 472.5W and for 600W-P 630W
  • #1227 21046480
    velkhor
    Level 10  
    Buddy, I read the cards I have available :)
    jsw wrote:
    1/ you can mix all 450W-P, 450W-P2 and 600W-P optimizers in one chain

    I haven`t found this in any datasheet. Besides, I wrote that I didn`t mix it. Something that surprised me is that the P2s have a pairing time with the inverter <5s, and in the 450-P the pairing time is much longer, so there is some difference.
    jsw wrote:
    2/ the maximum panel power for 450W-P and 450W-P2 is the same and is 472.5W and for 600W-P 630W

    Here I agree with my colleague that he is 100% right, "The maximum power of PV ..... PV modules with up to +5% power tolerance are allowed" so it can be exceeded by 5%.
  • #1228 21064425
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    SUN2000MA-8KTL-M1
    How do I upgrade dongle and mbus ?
    I used to do it, now I would like to upgrade and I don't know how :(
    I upgraded the inverter firmware to the latest version (162)
    1) I enter the SUN2000 app in maintenece/upgrade, and there it only has to choose inverter, optimisers and mbus. There is no SDongle.
    Through the web I also do not see something like "settings" (according to the documentation of the SDOngle upgrade)
    2) I would also like to do an upgrade of the mbus and also do not know how. Zanzy the option to upgrade is, but I can not download the package from the site
    https://support.huawei.com/enterprise/en/fusionsolar/smartmbus-pid-23826578/software
    because I have it as if unregistered or something. I don't understand. How do I register it. I have a registered inverter

    ps. I wanted to connect to the mbus to the inverter and I can't. That's why I want to bump up everything to see if that solves the problem.
  • #1229 21064446
    velkhor
    Level 10  

    szczukot wrote:
    1) I go into the SUN2000 app in maintenance/upgrade, and there it only has inverter, optimizers, and mbus to choose from. There is no SDongle.
    Through the www I also don't see anything like "settings" (according to the SDongle upgrade documentation)

    You have to connect to the dongle and not the inverter. You should be able to give through the QR which is on it.
  • #1230 21064507
    szczukot
    Level 14  
    So I logged in and I have a problem with the upgrade.
    The current firmware is
    V100R001C00SPC119
    I downloaded
    V100R001C00SPC135

    I select during the upgrade and I get the message "no device to upgrade".

    What else should I do ?

Topic summary

The discussion centers on issues and configurations related to Huawei SUN2000 series inverters, particularly focusing on WiFi dongle connectivity, firmware updates, and the FusionSolar platform. Users report successful inverter commissioning and firmware updates but face persistent problems connecting the WiFi dongle, which often blinks red and appears offline in FusionSolar. A reliable workaround is connecting the dongle via Ethernet cable to the router. Changing WiFi network credentials requires logging directly into the inverter through FusionSolar or FusionHome apps, as remote password changes are not supported. Installer accounts have broader configuration permissions than owner accounts, which often restrict access to settings such as location, currency, and power configuration. The discussion also covers optimal network code selection (e.g., Germany-VDE-AR-N-4105 for Poland), MPPT multi-peak scanning settings for shadowed panels, and string capacity configuration aligning with physical panel connections. Users note that inverter startup voltage and MPPT voltage ranges affect minimum panel string length, with debates on using 140V or 240V for calculations. Firmware updates are available but may not always be visible to all users simultaneously; some recommend downgrading FusionSolar app versions to resolve login or configuration issues. The FusionSolar platform's interface and permissions can be non-intuitive, with some users unable to modify installation parameters without installer access. Additional topics include inverter automatic shutdown due to high grid voltage, anti-PID function requiring external devices, and integration with Huawei DTSU666-H smart meters, which are often auto-detected. Overall, the thread provides practical advice on inverter setup, network configuration, firmware management, and troubleshooting communication issues with Huawei SUN2000 inverters and associated software tools.
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