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Set - DC / DC converter 9A XL4016 and panel meter DSN-VC288, assembly, test

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  • #151 19694928
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    I would suggest modernizing the composition of the set. Eg converter; https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3834976.html and the meter https://allegro.pl/oferta/modul-woltomierz-0-...ocznik-10632858607?reco_id=18db1ce6-3fc6-11ec -8b8b-bc97e12c68a096499e13bc806f55bd0c404f69ac7020 I have this 50A version meter not unpacked yet. There would be a stronger version of the set.
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  • #152 19709271
    1Waldemar
    Level 12  
    Hello, everyone interested in this converter. I have a question for users - I want to build a power supply with two independent systems (sometimes you need a dozen volts at once and a few to power the systems next to it, i.e. two different voltages. I have a 24V 2.5A power supply and the question is whether anyone tried to connect the masses of two independent such same converters from the same power source?
    A bit confusing? - easier. One 24 / 2.5 power supply, two converters set to 5V and the other to 12V - can their masses be shortened?
  • #153 19710927
    TechEkspert
    Editor
    Looking at the PCB pattern https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3434421.html it looks like the output GND is not directly connected to the input GND (unless there are vias). If there is no continuity between the input and output GND (e.g. there is some measuring resistor) then the output GND of the two inverters cannot be connected to the input GND connected.
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  • #154 19712105
    1Waldemar
    Level 12  
    Yes, unfortunately there is a measuring resistor for the current in series on the neutral circuit. Somewhere I read that we can, however, lose the current measurement. When building, for example, on LMs, this will not be a problem, but we have no current limitation and protection.

    When building on a converter and a transformerless power supply such as laptops, what else would you recommend? what else to add?
    There are those who recommend large capacitors between these modules (1000 micro up), there are those who suggest disconnecting the inverter from the laptop power supply through an additional switch on the panel so that the inverter does not go stupid if it was under load when the system was turned off.
    What do you propose makes sense, what are your practical experiences with such systems?
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  • #155 19712119
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #156 19712290
    lukiiiii
    Level 29  
    And the rectifier diodes on the (-) return of both converters?
  • #157 19719673
    Walery K
    Level 23  
    I plan to do something similar, but I will power each inverter from a separate power supply. Then it should work without any problem. Of course, the masses are connected at the output of the converters.
  • #158 19865153
    rvh4421
    Level 2  
    Hello all,
    I'm from Belgium and new to this forum.
    Since I'm practising with xl4015 and xl4016 modules last weeks, I found here useful information!
    When using the modules for charging Lithium batteries , the charging works ok but there always remains a 10% charging current at the end witch is not good for Lithium charging, so the process can not be left unattended.
    I found a way to solve this: once the charging led goes on, this is notified (flipflop) and when the "full" blue led signals the completion, the 4015 or 4016 chip is shut down (idle mode - no more output). A blocking diode at the output is needed to prevent reverse current from the battery.
    Only 2 transistors (flipflop) and a 2n7000 mosfet (to block the IC) are needed with a minor modification on the circuit board.
    Is somebody interested for further discussion?
    grts
    rik
    rvh44(_at_)telenet.be
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  • #159 19868471
    TechEkspert
    Editor
    Interesting, the use of the LED signal to complete the charging. Maybe an input relay could be used. You can then add a momentary button "start charging", which will start the relay and the signal from the LED will maintain the operation of the relay. When the LED goes out, the relay will disconnect the power to the entire system.
  • #160 19873974
    rvh4421
    Level 2  
    Hello TechEkspert,
    Thanks for repluing! I would prefer a sollution without relay if possible. Using the green led for finish signal is a bit tricky: it lights too at startup (to set V or C without load) or with a full battery (load current too small). A secure protocol seems to be: wait for charging (red led goes on) and then wait for the green led to stop everything. I know this could be done with a microcontroller, but I hoped for a solution with minimal hardware, eg a start button (when loading has begun) automatically finished by the green led. Any idea? grts Rik
  • #161 19876831
    TechEkspert
    Editor
    A MOSFET transistor can be used instead of a relay.
    The start button can polarize the MOSFET gate, after releasing the button, the transistor gate can be polarized from the powered circuit, the signal from the green diode turns off the power to the system by turning off the MOSFET transistor.
  • #162 20551566
    Olkus
    Level 32  
    It's been a while... Is there a chance that converters will appear?

    Regards,
    AND.
  • #163 20551569
    E8600
    Level 41  
    As far as I remember, she was only in the shop once? And I'm sure they'd find them quickly. :D
  • #164 20551756
    Olkus
    Level 32  
    Unfortunately, only once. I'd love to take it myself ;)

    Regards,
    AND.
  • #165 21263564
    dukealex
    Level 1  
    Close-up of a damaged electronic circuit with a visible transistor and coils.

    hi. i lost too much time whi this circuit. mount a fake xl4016. fast burn the internal mosfet. bat products.lost money. bye

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    dukealex wrote:
    Close-up of a damaged electronic circuit with a visible transistor and coils.

    hi. i lost too much time whi this circuit. mount a fake xl4016. fast burn the internal mosfet. bat products.lost money. bye


    nb:
    Is the microscopic chip on the transistor visible? it's too small to dissipate 300 watts 8 amps!! ridiculous.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    dukealex wrote:
    Close-up of a damaged electronic circuit with a visible transistor and coils.

    hi. i lost too much time whi this circuit. mount a fake xl4016. fast burn the internal mosfet. bat products.lost money. bye

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    dukealex wrote:
    Close-up of a damaged electronic circuit with a visible transistor and coils.

    hi. i lost too much time whi this circuit. mount a fake xl4016. fast burn the internal mosfet. bat products.lost money. bye


    nb:
    Is the microscopic chip on the transistor visible? it's too small to dissipate 300 watts 8 amps!! ridiculous.
    Microscopic chip on a transistor mounted on a board.
  • #166 21264386
    TechEkspert
    Editor
    Echoing the fakes... You can damage other equipment because of them.
  • #167 21337289
    endrju3011
    Level 1  
    >>21264386 Whether such a thing:
    Link .
    secure the circuit in question?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the assembly and testing of a DC/DC converter based on the XL4016 chip, capable of outputting up to 9A and adjustable voltage from 1.2V to 35V, along with the DSN-VC288 panel meter for voltage and current readout. Users share experiences regarding circuit assembly, potential issues with reverse polarity connections, and methods for enhancing protection against such errors, including the use of Schottky diodes and relays. The conversation also touches on the practicality of using multiturn potentiometers for fine adjustments, the importance of proper grounding, and the challenges of using the converter for battery charging applications. Concerns about the reliability of components, particularly regarding counterfeit products, are also raised, emphasizing the need for quality assurance in electronic components.
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