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LCR-T4 electronics components tester ATMega328 - Test and Review

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  • #271 16707672
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    See here. Quite a good coil and no inductance? LCR-T4 electronics components tester ATMega328 - Test and Review
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  • #272 16707734
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    See here. Quite a good coil and no inductance?
    High resistance and considered it was just a resistor. The inductance usually has a low resistance, although not necessarily. This is the case with primary windings of low power network transformers. I noticed that too.
  • #273 16707742
    rafcio_21
    Level 29  
    I have the impression that on a modified coil drive it performs better and additionally more parameters are displayed.
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  • #274 16707757
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    Do not you think that it is a bifilar wirewound resistor from a meter? So the so-called "inductless coil" :)
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  • #275 16708279
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    Quite a good coil and no inductance?
    I also noticed that it does not recognize inductance in coreless coils.
    DiZMar wrote:
    High resistance and considered it was just a resistor.
    At low resistance too. In my opinion, the proportions of resistance and inductance decide.
  • #276 16708306
    E8600
    Level 41  
    So I have to understand the translation will not help if we do not drive the inductance the first time?
  • #277 16708335
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    vodiczka wrote:
    ... I also noticed that it does not recognize inductance in coreless coils ...
    This is not the reason. For proof, the measurement of the coreless coil measurement: LCR-T4 electronics components tester ATMega328 - Test and Review
  • #278 16708345
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    Gentlemen ... Do not demand from cheap TESTER quality and accuracy of measurements such as in decent bridges or transistor meters. It's ONLY TESTER it is supposed to be sometimes confused by assumption ... ;)
  • #279 16708347
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    How not how. I did not add that she did not recognize small inductance. I wrapped the coils for several dozen turns and a resistance of 0.2-0.5?, the tester recognized the resistors.
  • #280 16708370
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    vodiczka wrote:
    How not how. I did not add that she did not recognize small inductance. I wrapped the coils for several dozen turns and a resistance of 0.2-0.5?, the tester recognized the resistors.
    According to its (tester) technical data, it measures the inductance from 0.01mH. A few or even tens of coils without a core are probably less than 0.01mH. My coil with 0.01mH inductance (lower measurement limit) has been detected. If it was half as long as it had a coil it would probably be only a resistor of about 1?
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  • #281 16708386
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    398216 Usunięty wrote:
    Gentlemen ... Do not demand from the cheap TESTER the quality and accuracy of measurements such as in decent bridges or transistor meters. It's ONLY TESTER,
    It's just a gadget. We do not discuss accuracy, but rather that it distorts certain elements. A cheap tester has the right not to recognize many elements but it is not right from the capacitor to make a diode from a low-inductance coil, a resistor. With such errors, he ceases to be a tester and becomes a toy. A very nice toy. :)
  • #282 16708589
    brofran
    Level 41  
    vodiczka wrote:
    A cheap tester has the right not to recognize many items
    Consent, but if an element is not able to diagnose, it should display the appropriate inscription, eg: unknown .
  • #283 16708608
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    Do not you think that it is a bifilar wirewound resistor from a meter?
    So do not deny that it is possible? Time for reactance measurements. But where to find some voltage with a known frequency?
  • #284 16708622
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    brofran wrote:
    Consent, but if an element is not able to diagnose, it should display the appropriate inscription, eg: unknown .
    After all, the string is displayed ....
  • #285 16708818
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    brofran wrote:
    Consent, but if an element is not able to diagnose, it should display the appropriate string, e.g. unknown.
    But it displays the appropriate message when it is unable to diagnose the item. The problem is that some elements are unable to diagnose and others diagnose as "otherwise efficient" :)
  • #286 16708864
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    Maybe we'll be back to measuring the different inductances? In the lower and upper range of this tester.
  • #287 16708866
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    DiZMar wrote:
    A few or even tens of coils without a core are probably less than 0.01mH. My coil with 0.01mH inductance (lower measurement limit) has been detected. If it was half as long as it had a coil it would probably be only a resistor of about 1?
    You probably are right, I will not check the inductance meter.
    Adamcyn wrote:
    Maybe we'll be back to measuring the different inductances? In the lower and upper range of this tester.
    Hm, I can wind coils about 0.01 mH based on the calculator below and give what the tester pointed out. http://ekalk.eu/l_pl.html
  • #288 16708936
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    vodiczka wrote:
    Hm, I can wind coils about 0.01 mH based on the calculator below and give what the tester pointed out.
    That's just it, sir. Coil for max. 20 H measuring range is not easy to wind. :) I measured my coil: R = 9980 ? U = 26.6 V, 50 Hz, Measured current 2.66 mA indicates the resistive nature of the resultant element. Therefore, it is a non-inductively wound resistor and the tester correctly assessed it.
  • #290 16709574
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    vodiczka wrote:
    Hm, I can wind coils about 0.01 mH based on the calculator below and give what the tester pointed out. http://ekalk.eu/l.html
    I just read in the description that this calculator is not suitable: This calculator will help you calculate the air coil. The formula used in the calculations gives correct results for the inductance not exceeding several dozen microhenries. If you need a coil with a higher inductance, you should use other methods.
  • #291 16709585
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    vodiczka wrote:
    Hm, I can wind coils about 0.01 mH based on the calculator below and give what the tester pointed out. http://ekalk.eu/l.html
    I just read in the description that this calculator is not suitable: This calculator will help you calculate the air coil. The formula used in the calculations gives correct results for the inductance not exceeding several dozen microhenries. If you need a coil with a higher inductance, you should use other methods.
    0.01mH = 10?H. The coil can be wound using this inductance with the inductance ? 0.01mH (10?H), ie the one that the tester should detect as inductance and give the size.
  • #292 16709704
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    DiZMar wrote:
    0.01mH = 10?H. The coil can be wound using this inductance with the inductance ? 0.01mH (10?H), ie the one that the tester should detect as inductance and give the size.
    Yes. Of course, you are right. Below is another calculator and considerable discrepancy for 10 ?H. Which is correct? http://www.pronine.ca/coilcal.htm
  • #293 16709730
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    I just read in the description that this calculator is not suitable:
    Why? I undertook to:
    vodiczka wrote:
    Hm, I can wind coils about 0.01 mH based on the calculator below
    Both 0.01mH and 0.05mH are in the range of several dozen microhrens.
    Adamcyn wrote:
    Below is another calculator and considerable discrepancy for 10 ?H.
    "Spore" is the percentage of the lower value?
  • #294 16709790
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    vodiczka wrote:
    Both 0.01mH and 0.05mH are in the range of several dozen microhrens.
    I have already confirmed my mistake above. :cry:
    vodiczka wrote:
    "Spore" is the percentage of the lower value?
    L = 10 ?H, D = 10 mm, d = 0.1 mm http://www.pronine.ca/coilcal.htm 106 scrolls http://ekalk.eu/l_en.html 27 scrolls The following calculator indicates 26 turns: http://www.electronicdeveloper.de/InduktivitaetLuftEinl.aspx
  • #297 16712145
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    The 10 ?H reactor was correctly measured. LCR-T4 electronics components tester ATMega328 - Test and Review
    DiZMar wrote:
    This is the case with primary windings of low power network transformers. I noticed that too.
    Affirmative. Maybe they are out of range 20 H? We count?
  • #298 16712178
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    At hand, I have 68uH and 47uH inductors, the first shows 70uH and the other 40uH. Earlier, after receiving the tester, I also measured a bigger one but I do not know what a miracle it was, so I checked that it measures.
  • #299 16712879
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    I measured and counted such a transformer: LCR-T4 electronics components tester ATMega328 - Test and Review U = 237 V, 50 Hz, R = 1945 ? I = 23.5 mA, that is around 32 H. Check. The tester showed different values and had the right - 32 H is a value outside its 20H range. Again, he defended himself. :D
  • #300 16712906
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Adamcyn wrote:
    I have measured such a transformer: ... that is around 32 H. Check. The tester showed different values and had the right - 32 H is a value outside its range of 20 H. He defeated again. :D
    Well, he did not fully defend himself. If it is outside the range, it should "say" and do not indicate what "saliva into language will bring". And without the use of a metaphor, it should display a message that the result is out of range as normal meters or other "simple" devices measuring even weights. It should not be misleading.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the LCR-T4 electronics components tester, which utilizes an ATMega328 microcontroller. Users share their experiences with the tester's capabilities, including automatic detection of component types, measurement of inductance, capacitance, and resistance, as well as calibration procedures. Concerns are raised about the accuracy of measurements, particularly with low inductance values and the tester's ability to identify certain components like transistors and diodes. Users also discuss the power supply options, including the use of 9V batteries versus rechargeable alternatives, and modifications to improve functionality. The conversation highlights the tester's utility for hobbyists and its limitations in professional applications.
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