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  • funak
    Level 24  
    It can be used, theoretically it should work.
  • Tertomium
    Level 2  
    Okay, because the device fails when I try to start / update smart hub. I have tried all dumps I have found around in the web.
  • lukasis6
    Level 17  
    Tertomium wrote:
    Hey,
    does the D5700 have the same Bad-Block support as the D5500, so can you use nandlite for correction?

    These are the same NAND bones and the same batch you can use.
  • Tertomium
    Level 2  
    Thanks for answering.
    Do you know why the tv breaks when i try to use smart hub?
    Maybe the nand itself or are there known bugs within nandlite which are not Resolved yet?
  • Wazier
    Level 1  
    Hello

    Where can I buy the nand lite and shipped to the Netherlands?

    Thank you
  • SERGEY4273
    Level 2  
    Hello! How can I not flash atxmega128a4u, here is a snapshot Flash NAND Lite memory programmer! TSOP48 Am I flashing a ready-made programmer all the elements on the board, or do I need to flash atxmega without installing it on the board? Or so it should be stitched, but I can't, tell me how to fix it? Thank!
  • funak
    Level 24  
    The NANDLite server is currently turned off, so it is not possible to send batches, and the signatures of the chips can, they will be queued for analysis. The planned server activation is scheduled for August 20, 2020.

    We have a lot of work ahead of us on NANDLite v2.0 in September, please wait for some positive news.
  • funak
    Level 24  
    Good morning,

    recently I noticed a certain incorrectness in the use of the programmer, so I would like to remind you of some basic rules when working with NAND memories:

    - NAND memory is divided into blocks and pages
    - pages are contiguous data spaces contained in a data block, for example a block consists of 64 pages, and a page contains 2112 bytes
    - the factory NAND memory may have damaged data blocks (and this is normal), i.e. those to which data cannot be written, an attempt to write data to such a block fails, it does not "corrupt" the memory
    - each memory page is divided into two logical data spaces, so-called: MainArea, where the size is defined as powers of two, i.e. e.g. 2048 bytes, and the so-called: SpareArea of different sizes, in which ECC correction data is stored. This division is basically contractual and provided by the manufacturer in the documentation. Both these areas are physically equally qualitatively efficient.
    - a page in the NAND memory consists of bytes, and individual bytes - of bits, and individual bits may have a lower capacity to store data, as a result of which the memory may not be verified correctly after the recording, i.e. random bit errors may occur, they may also occur after the device memory has been used for an extended period. The manufacturer knows about it, that's why he introduced an additional SpareArea space, where you can place the result of special mathematical operations that allow you to locate a specific distorted bit and recreate it, usually the device in which it is installed is implemented.
    - the manufacturer suggests what correction ability must have an algorithm of special mathematical operations (so-called ECC), i.e. how many bits may be distorted during reading,
    - more than 1 bit can be stored in a particular NAND memory cell, therefore the type designations have been introduced: SLC, MLC, TLC etc.
    - SLC is the best quality memory, 1 bit of memory is stored in one NAND memory cell, therefore memories of this type can be repeatedly erased and programmed and their number reaches up to 100,000 times, the disadvantage is unfortunately the low capacity
    - MLC - the next generation of NAND memory, on the same silicon surface in one NAND memory cell can fit 2 bits of data. Unfortunately at the cost of something for something. The number of writes decreased to about 5,000 times, while the number of unstable bits increased, so the SpareArea area had to be enlarged to include more information for the bit correction system (ECC). The algorithm itself is more complicated, but it can correct 4-8 bits of distorted bits
    - TLC, the next generation of NAND, the manufacturer said that if you could fit two bits, why not three? And yes, it also happened, 3 bits in the memory cell is a capacitive jump in the same volume of silicon, hence the memory of 16.32Gbit. Unfortunately, practically every page has corrupted bits here, the ECC system has something to do. Subscriptions dropped to around 500!

    - at any time we can program any page in memory in any block
    - with some exceptions (SLC, NOP> 1) we program the memory only once, if we want to re-program even the same content, we must necessarily delete it, otherwise errors will occur during verification
    - before programming any page, it must be previously deleted, i.e. its content is the same logical "1"
    - you cannot delete a single page, we always delete the entire block and this is a significant limitation

    From the NANDLite programmer point of view - ALWAYS before writing the memory, ERASE the memory.
  • jagdeepdhillon
    Level 1  
    Hi funak,

    Today I tried to read hynix nand HY27UCG8T2BTR-BC. It took about 3.5 hours to finish. But read only 00 in every block. Is there any problem with the algorithm.
    Thanks
  • ptihka69
    Level 1  
    Tell me, is it possible to flash this OneNand KFG1GN6W2D - SAMSUNG UE32D5500 programmer with this programmer, if you make some kind of adapter? Or can it be in version 2.0 programmer? And will the second version of the programmer be free like the first, or will it only be paid?
  • talkos
    Level 1  
    what about version 2, when to wait approximately and what changes there will be
  • Marco82tn
    Level 2  
    Good evening, I should revive my NR609, I ordered the DSP from china from a seller who have a lot of positive feedback about the d830. I'm afraid that NAND also needs to be reprogrammed, does the NANDlite programmer also send it to Italy? Thank's
  • funak
    Level 24  
    Yes, shipping in Italy possible. Info in a private message.

    Please enter the NAND symbol. I'll check if it can handle this memory.
  • Marco82tn
    Level 2  
    Thanks to the creators of this exceptional forum, thanks to everyone I was able to find out how to revive my onkyo NR609 .. I am an electronic technician. I hope to be able to restore the sound to the amplifier
  • fachura
    Level 14  
    Hello, my friend funak's programmer supports NAND memory, among others, as Onkyo tx-nr 609 is on the memory list.
  • Marco82tn
    Level 2  
    YES yes, he told me .. since I make the purchase I also try to fix an 8050 of a friend who has a faulty DSP .. after the reflow by a Centre Assistance it went a week and now it is silent ..
  • SERGEY4273
    Level 2  
    Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста когда выйдет новая прошивка для NAND Lite ? Спасибо!

    Dzień dobry! Czy możesz mi powiedzieć, kiedy zostanie wydane nowe oprogramowanie dla NAND Lite? Dzięki!
  • Marco82tn
    Level 2  
    ordered, I just have to wait for the DSP and the programmer and let's try to revive the NR609 there. thank you all!!! I'll let you know
  • funak
    Level 24  
    SERGEY4273 wrote:
    ????????????! ?????????? ?????????? ????? ?????? ????? ???????? ??? NAND Lite? ???????!

    Good morning! Can you tell me when the new firmware for NAND Lite will be released? Thanks!


    The new software should be available in December. I am waiting for a new internet connection, where there will be a new application server. There will be news :)

    Version 2.0 should also be released in December, but that is yet to be confirmed. We'll see what the end of the month will bring.